Texas can require the Ten Commandments to be displayed in public school classrooms, a U.S. appeals court ruled Tuesday in a victory for conservatives who have long sought to incorporate more religion into schools.

The ruling sets up a potential clash at the U.S. Supreme Court over the issue in the future. Arkansas and Louisiana have passed similar laws, which have also been challenged in courts.

And Alabama Gov. Kay Ivey signed a similar law earlier this moth.

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    This is a ruling from the 5th Circuit Court. From Wikipedia:

    During his first administration, President Donald Trump appointed six judges to the court, with many observers thereafter regarding it as the most conservative court of appeals.[4][5][6] The Fifth Circuit’s reversal rate at the US Supreme Court from the beginning of the 2020 term through the end of the 2022 term was 74%, making it the 7th most frequently reversed circuit court; the average rate of reversals was 68%.[7][8] Some members of the Supreme Court, including Chief Justice John Roberts, have indicated concern with how the Fifth Circuit approaches cases.[9][10][11] Several court observers have interpreted the court as being exceptionally conservative in its rulings.[12]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Court_of_Appeals_for_the_Fifth_Circuit#2020s

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      Only the best for Texas…for Texans, not for children. Especially the imported children. Nothing like a good import.

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    Notably, the law does NOT say that you cannot display the Five Yamas, the Four Noble Truths, the Ten Precepts of Taoism, Five Pillars of Islam, etc., alongside them. That’s what I’d be doing, were I a teacher.

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      And make the 10 commandments really really small. Perhaps hand written by a student with bad handwriting. In Spanish. With yellow ink on beige paper.

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        These are the ones I’d want to post. But, honestly, I’m scared. In any other state, or in the private sector, I’m woefully unqualified, and can’t afford to lose my job. Most likely, I’d eventually be vindicated in the courts, but I’d be fired and destitute well before that.

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        Might be going a bit too far. The point is educate kids that Christianity is not the only religion. Putting that up might delegitimize the argument.

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          Did you read them? They seem less problematic than the ten commandments to me.

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                I think you may have missed the part where I said what they say is not relevant. It was 90% of the message you just replied to.

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                  It’s almost like you are afraid, it’s weird.

                  I don’t consider myself a Satanist, but their seven tenets are nearly impossible to argue against.

                  Here let me do you a favor and just paste them here for you:

                  I

                  One should strive to act with compassion and empathy toward all creatures in accordance with reason.

                  II

                  The struggle for justice is an ongoing and necessary pursuit that should prevail over laws and institutions.

                  III

                  One’s body is inviolable, subject to one’s own will alone.

                  IV

                  The freedoms of others should be respected, including the freedom to offend. To willfully and unjustly encroach upon the freedoms of another is to forgo one’s own.

                  V

                  Beliefs should conform to one’s best scientific understanding of the world. One should take care never to distort scientific facts to fit one’s beliefs.

                  VI

                  People are fallible. If one makes a mistake, one should do one’s best to rectify it and resolve any harm that might have been caused.

                  VII

                  Every tenet is a guiding principle designed to inspire nobility in action and thought. The spirit of compassion, wisdom, and justice should always prevail over the written or spoken word.

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              If they would be written in a poster on a wall it would matter. At least to anyone who actually sees them.

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                It wouldn’t matter to the people that matter. The people creating this legislation in the first place.

                You are too concerned with being right and not concerned enough about protecting children from indoctrination.

                They can’t denigrate text from Taoism and claim it’s not suppression of religious freedom, but they can totally point at text from a meme religion as proof that your argument is not serious.

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                  The Satanic Temple is a non-religious civil rights organization, and this has been their primary tactic for years because it works. When you point out to John Q. Public that allowing the 10 Commandments into classrooms will also open the doors to the 7 Tenets of Satanism, it either causes a reversal of course or bulldozes a path for wider religious acceptance.

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    Maybe this will make children question the morality of right wing politicians more.

    Why has Trump broken all 10 commandments, for instance.

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      That’s the way I want to see it, 10 commandments with examples of how federal and local politicians have violated them.

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    I honestly think it’s delightful.

    Just wait until those commandments are upon the walls of the US History classes and when the teachers get invariably, to the Civil War and teach - as Texas does - that the war was over states rights… and they read the Article of Secession that Texas wrote, the students can call that bullshit out, using the 8th commandment against “bearing false witness”. (no lying)

    The issue is that the real Article of Secession that Texas wrote - not the whitewashed version they teach in their schools (that, BTW. mentions States rights ZERO times) - is hella nastier about black people, than they’re comfortable to admit. (page 5, paragraph that starts: “We hold, as undeiniable truths…”)

    I think once that one hits the classrooma, a few of the more sharp kids are going to have a field day with it.

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    I haven’t read the ruling, but heard that they’re allowing it to go forward because there’s no penalty for refusing. Not sure about that. Need to read up on it. I have a lot of coworkers who will not be participating.