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Gen. Dan Caine, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, repeatedly warned Trump that Iran would likely disrupt the Strait of Hormuz in response to a U.S. attack, according to a new report in the Wall Street Journal.

Trump, 79, told his administration that he thought Iran would capitulate to the U.S. before it closed the Strait, adding that even if the Strait was threatened, the U.S. military could handle it.

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    Trump, 79, told his administration that he thought Iran would capitulate to the U.S. before it closed the Strait

    Yeah that’s what it seemed like, he thought he’d just bomb a little and everything would go his way. Got hopped up success in Venezuela and thought it would be the same.

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    How does anyone still listen to him? Every decision he’s ever made has not come from a place of intelligence, reason or foresight, but just what he feels at that moment.

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      A combination of: the people in positions of power stand to benefit personally for decisions that are bad for everyone else, and a failure of the people to hold him to account (which is itself caused by a mix of apathy, ignorance, and hatred).

      It’s only surprising if you have taken the competence and stability demonstrated over the last 70 years for granted.

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    Trump, 79, told his administration that he thought Iran would capitulate to the U.S. before it closed the Strait, adding that even if the Strait was threatened, the U.S. military could handle it

    Hitler, forcing his experienced Generals to follow his own incompetent strategies.

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    How can it be miscalculated when it wasn’t even calculated at all to begin with?

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    I love Hegseth’s response. It’s handled. We’re taking care of it. So don’t worry about it.

    Like dude bro, they’re not “worried about it,” in their job capacity as reporters, they are asking you about it because it’s their job.

    This isn’t like “who’s gonna load the dishwasher?” “Don’t worry about it, I’ve got it covered.”

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    jfc what fucking president says “bombing the hell out of the shoreline”. This isn’t call of duty with your buddies dumbass

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    We are rapidly approaching the decision point between fighting and dying for Trump and hesgeth in Iran or fighting in Washington for ourselves.

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        We are waiting for the Midterms. There is no sense in blowing up America now, when we still have a couple of legal options left. If we get through the Midterms and 2028, we might be able to rebuild.

        But if they somehow manage to cheat their way out of the Midterm bloodbath, there will be serious repercussions, and if they steal the 2028 election, it’s all over. Then we have nothing to lose, and it’s Civil War.

        Also, if they cancel/suspend an election. We’ve never done that in American history, not even during the Civil War. That is a bright red line, that must not be crossed. If he announces that elections are cancelled, then we no longer have a democracy, America is dead, and it’s Civil War.

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    I’m hoping that the military leadership is starting to realize that they WILL have to forcefully remove Trump, if anything to protect the safety and security of the country. Also the PRIMARY purpose of the US Armed forces is:

    1. To support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign or domestic.

    Not one fucking word about protecting pedos or presidents.

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      Only an American would ever possibly hope for a military coup… I know you guys don’t have a lot of history, but if that happened, it would be much, much worse than Trump.

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      Remember, within the first month of this term, he fired all the 5-star generals and other military leadership who would have had the wherewithal to pull this off.

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        You say “fired all the five star generals”, I say “created new leadership opportunities for disgruntled veterans”.

        America is going to end up with two armies, one full of soldiers and one full of sycophants and idiots. Boy, this doesn’t sound familiar or anything, does it?

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      You mean the military that’s commanded by people who were telling their troops that Trump was sent by God to protect Israel? Yeah, I wouldn’t get your hopes up.

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      It would not be a difficult math problem nor a stretch to calculate and conclude that he is a domestic enemy.

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    What’s funny is they got into this mess solely by their own crass ignorance. I’m persuaded they thought it would be like Syria or other asymmetrical wars they fought. Well though luck dipshits, Iran is a whole other kind of beast.

    They already shit their pants in Afghanistan despite it being literally nicknamed “the graveyard of empires”. But Iran is not that, Iran is its own empire and has been for thousands of years. Good luck trying to get Elamites and Medes to bend the knee. You’re not the first to try.

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      Well though luck dipshits, Iran is a whole other kind of beast.

      If only every single person who knew anything at all about Iran had tried to tell them this repeatedly for years and years.

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        Isn’t that kind of their signature moves? Trying something that sounds kinda sorta like common sense but it’s profoundly stupid or has already failed countless times before…

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        It’s the same service as archive[.]today, more on the subject here (last paragraph of history section at the time of this comment). Short version: it’s unreliable and uses visitor traffic to attack other sites.

        I try not to make specific recommendations in order to avoid shill-like behavior but there are some other options listed on this page.

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    Why does Trump want the strait OPEN?

    He’s the one that CLOSED it.

    Ooh yea, that OLD trick he uses when he makes a problem and then fixes the problem he made.