US to Send Up to 5,000 Marines to Iran

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    5000 marines dying for a man who raped and then murdered and then ate tiny little baby children.

    Damn, what a way to go.

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    did they not learn from the 80s when they were fighting the soviets with the mujahadeen, and then desert storm, and then the bush wars in the ME, oh and this all helps ISRAEl. currently this has been helping russia, since TRUMP lifted sanctions on them today.

    all this was a way to HELP putin without directly lifting sanctions, he needed a “reason to do it” and that reason why iran war caused oil to increase in price.

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      I’ll take 4999 body bags and one survivor that the rest of us can ridicule. Fuck the Marines, every single one of them.

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          Still doesn’t excuse raping foreign civilians out of boredom or overlooking your friends doing it tho.

          I understand. I probably would have done the same if I grew up like they did. It still would have been unfair for me not suffer any consequences.

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    I’m pretty sure we can’t have that many without congressional approval.

    Everyone make sure to stab your senators in Minecraft.

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    The window of opportunity to get out of this situation in the USA is closing fast, and if it’s not seized soon, this mess is going to last decades, assuming a lot of deaths and an absurd amount of money that the country no longer has like it did decades ago. The shit is going to fall on everyone.

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      I’m pretty sure the window is already closed. This is our second war with Iran in under a year. Both of which were started by the US/Israel; while we were actively negotiating with Iran. After the first war, we bragged about how the negotiation was a genius move by us to catch Iran with a surprise attack. The last time we had a major treaty with Iran, we unilaterally tore it up; and none of the other signatories stepped up to try and make Iran whole.

      The 12 day war ended when we decided to end it. Iran agreed because no one likes getting bombed, and they assumed we had done all we had the stomach to do. However, this type of stop-and-go conflict massively favors the US. Iran’s strength lies in a sustained war of attrition. Deplete our air defense systems faster than we can resupply them. Disrupt the oil market long enough to cause global shortages. Draw us into a war against an insurgency. None of this is effective if they let us decide when the conflict pauses.

      Their actions show this. Mining the straight of Hormuz and bombing oil fields are not the type of action you take for a conflict you don’t plan on lasting. Appoint the son of the leader we assisinated as your new leader. Those are decisions that will take months to reverse.

      Also, I should mention that the current leader of Iran just had his family killed by us. And Iran was just in the middle of an internal political crisis that conveniently goes away in the face of an external one.

      I don’t see how we get Iran to agree to end the war without us offering some major concessions.

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      It closed when we assassinated the former head of state and the entire family of the new head of state along with a few hundred children.

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        There’s shitloads of protests going on over the matter, actually, but much like the protests against all the rest of Trump’s bullshit and especially ICE, you wouldn’t catch the media covering any of them, despite them being nigh-constant.

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      I foresee this escalating and getting worse, leading to some catastrophic nonsense that puts our species to shame in only a matter of months.

      We’re running out of helium, the strategic oil reserves are at most 20% of what’s needed, and now that wells are capped it’s to take months to get back.

      As this continues Trump will get madder, dementia-ier, and try and escalate more.

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        We aren’t running out of Helium. The date at which a specific reservoir gets sold is coming closer.

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          Technically we are. We won’t be out in our lifetimes, to my knowledge, but we aren’t making more helium. Once its gone, its gone. So, it is running out, but on what time scale?

          When will the human race start slowing down? Its eventually just going to get crazy expensive and only used when vital. And we’re filling party balloons with it.

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            The moon has a butload, if the scarcity becomes threatening there be enough financial motivation to mine it there.

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    So far, we have been able to weasel out of every definition of war. I’m curious to see how that changes with boots on the ground.

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      The US President and the US ministry of war have called it a war many times already. They call it a war pretty much all the time. If someone is still not calling it for what it is then they‘re probably high on Russian propaganda and didn‘t read the script. Again, the US president started a war to distract from his disastrous polling numbers and he doesn‘t even try to hide it. Unlike his close relationship to Jeffrey Epstein.

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      They’re not going to Iran. We’ve had boots on the ground at American, joint, and foreign bases around the world for decades. Not to mention actual combat deployments to places like Syria without a congressional declaration of war

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        The Syrian deployments were covered by the 2001 AUMF. But that AUMF has finally been repealed now. It would be a serious escalation in claimed presidential powers to send ground forces into anything longer than approximately Grenada.

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      It’s a war. Call it what it is and not what the politicians tell you it is. Fuck their definitions. People are dying.

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        Oh I agree 100 percent. I’m also not worried about what politicians call it. I only want to see the administration defend their many broken laws in a court room one day.

        I know. I got jokes.

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      i mean, we haven been to war since wwii. i’m just surprised no-one has noticed before this.

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    It will be interesting to see how well that goes over with the isolationist Trump supporters who liked the idea of non-involvement abroad and thought that that was what they were getting with Trump.

    It sounds like Tucker Carlson, for example, which has been playing to the isolationist crowd, has been pretty critical of activity in Iran.

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      They’ll just suffer from broken spines from bending over backwards trying to explain how they always supported the idea of going to war again and how its the woke libtards who are in the wrong.

      In other news Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia

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      Tucker Carlson is an op. And a stalking horse for President. He plays the game just like they all do.

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    How does one say: “America is beyond fucked” but in MAGAt speak?

    Long live the draft yanks. This is Vietnam, but way worse and just like Vietnam, you’ll loose this fucking war as well, because for all your chest thumping, you absolutely suck at war.

    Anything to protect a pedophile and the rest of the Epstein class I suppose.

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      hes most afraid of exposing more billionaires and apparently influencers to the epstein files into the news spotlight, who are also his donors.

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      How does one say: “America is beyond fucked” but in MAGAt speak?

      “Shit is great and I am thrilled about what we are doing!”

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      It’s true. USA hasn’t won its own war since their Civil one, if that counts. They’ve been on the side of victors in other people’s wars, but not for any skill other than being able to build shit and ship it over quick.

      This is the standard play. Big show of bravado at the start, realise it’ll take more, troops go in, yada yada yada, USA loss.

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      You’re right. If you are gonna do a ground invasion you really need to go in force. 5k is a suicide mission.

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    It’s pretty fucking clear something beyond the American people and possibly even beyond authentic genuine politicians, and possibly beyond American nationals, and possibly people OTHER than Russian or Israeli OWN the nation of America.

    And that American citizens are disposable. Written off like day old bread.

    America world Mafia.

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      I don’t think the Israelis are necessarily the Zionists controlling everything. I think those people are spread throughout the world and also that they only say they are Jewish to get away with bad shit without being questioned. It seems like Israel is just the money laundering operation to siphon cash from US taxpayers. I’ll pass the tin foil hat back to you now.