• xtr0n@sh.itjust.works
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    11 hours ago

    There is a world of room between “good” and “ran a child sex trafficking ring”. Clinton may be a POS for many reasons and he may have visited Epstine island and maybe even raped children (we don’t know at this point but anyone in the flight logs is sus). That is all absolutely terrible but it’s still very different than kidnapping 10’s or hundreds of children to rape and pimp. And the files seem to indicate that Trump was actively involved in this scheme for decades.

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      6 hours ago

      Both Clintons are in the Epstein files hundreds of times. They also both happen to be war criminals.

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        Yeah, the Clintons have done absolutely terrible things. I would never claim otherwise. I don’t remember the Clinton administration very well but I don’t doubt that he’s a war criminal.

        The meme claims that Bill was “keeping child sex slaves” and that isn’t supported by any evidence that I’ve seen.

        Everyone involved should get investigated and tried for any and all crimes.

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          Everyone involved should get investigated and tried for any and all crimes.

          Indeed they should, but they won’t, because they’re above the law. They shouldn’t be above the law, but they objectively are. What you’re seeing isn’t some rare exception, it’s a peek behind the curtain of how the United States is actually run, and it’s nothing like how it’s supposed to work on paper.

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      8 hours ago

      maybe even raped children

      but

      I swear, it’s impossible to parody lesser-evilists because you’re all self-parodies at this point.

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      3 hours ago

      Step back and realise that you’re trying to quibble about levels of evil between child rapists.

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        11 hours ago

        Fair. I do think scale is sometime important. A single murder is not a genocide. But I can see your POV.

        Regardless, Clinton is awful but IDK what he did on the island. If he did rape kids then I hope they throw his ass in jail.

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          I want a worse fate for him if so, however, I don’t want it to be a distraction from the existing Pedo in Chief and their ilk.

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        10 hours ago

        There’s no evidence he did anything inappropriate with kids.

        Trump, however, has been accused by multiple Epstein victims.

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          “There’s no evidence this longtime Epstein associate who flew multiple times on a plane called the Lolita Express did anything inappropriate with kids”

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            Well?

            You’re implying that there is.

            So where is it? You’re setting expectations extremely high for yourself.

            Gonna need that evidence.

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              You know things are going well for your wealthy rapist of choice when you’re reduced to saying “Well can you prove that he was doing the things that everyone around him was also doing?”

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            9 hours ago

            Correct. Epstein had connections to his charities. Was for humanitarian work.

            You think Trump released the files with more evidence of him fucking kids than Clinton if there was any other option?

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              Yeah man the president of the united states totally needed the funding and connections of a known pedophile in order to do some vague, nondescript “social work”.

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                He didn’t need to, but he was not a known pedophile, and the travel was tied publicly tied to Clinton foundation work like the 2002 Africa trip for HIV/AIDS.

                Again, you think Trump hid evidence of Clinton’s wrongdoings but published damning things on himself?

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                  Trump is trying to drop the Epstein files entirely, if anyone involved is implicated then everyone involved is implicated, as it establishes the validity of guilt among those involved with Epstein, that’s why literally no one other than Maxwell has done any time for any of this fucked up nonsense, and they’re actively trying to undo any of her punishment with far more fervor than they’re putting into investigating anything else in the files. If he goes after Clinton then that would establish that there is reason to properly investigate and prosecute others in the files, and nobody is in the files more than Trump. He doesn’t want anyone to go down for any of it, because that would be painting a target on himself by way of legal precedence. It’s all just an act of self preservation by the system of pedophiles running the country from top to bottom, if one goes down then they could all go down.

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                    riiight…but they contain plenty of incriminating information about Trump. Where’s the incriminating information about Clinton?