Across the US, people have been carrying their passports amid reports of citizens being detained. Five people explain what living this reality is like

  • zqwzzle@lemmy.ca
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    1 day ago

    The papers please developer are leaving money on the table not making an updated American version.

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      13 hours ago

      They don’t wanna repeat game of thrones. They’ll wait till the last parts been written first.

  • MareOfNights@discuss.tchncs.de
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    Lmao, you think ICE cares about passports, they are probably fake anyway.

    It’s time to get out of the country. Treat the US as radioactive as China or Russia.

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      They want to throw undesirables out of the country. Until that motive and goal is not part of US leadership, they will find excuses to ignore any road blocks. The best course of action is to force them to become as brutal as possible, as fast as possible, and hope the sudden shock of brutality wakes America the fuck up.

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    I carry a 1911. Fuck some piece of paper. I will not shut up. I will not cower in fucking shadows. I am afraid for the future of my country, but I am ready to die fighting to save my home. Your passport, driver’s license, social security card mean nothing to this brute squad. Folks have got to be ready for a fight. Many of us are going to lose it, but compliance is not going to make them play nice.

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    I often wonder how much better off as a global society we’d be if the fucking 9/11 attacks didn’t happen. This feels like a natural extended outcome of irrational fear and hatred of those who are “others”.

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      The irony being americas mostly doing this to itself at this point. Although it doesnt surprise me they were 1 tragedy away from it given mccarthy and the red scare. There’s always been this reality that personal liberties are secondary to the goals of the political leaders.

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    15 hours ago

    Oh, snowflakes. It is absolutely the norm to carry IDs with you in other countries, and nobody bats an eye.

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      I think you misunderstand. It’s normal in US to carry IDs, usually driver licenses. But those are state-issued IDs. They are becoming unreliable when dealing with federal authorities, however, because they don’t prove citizenship. For example, my permanent resident wife has a state ID, she also has a social security card, and other documents, but she is not a US citizen, so her ID she carries does not verify her right to be here. (She has another card for that, which until recently she likewise did not carry regularly since for 99% of needs the state ID is sufficient.)

      A passport is one of the few federal IDs we have that also prove citizenship, and probably most Americans, or a very significant number of them, do not have one or did not have one until semi recently. It was about 12 years ago the US stopped accepting state ID to enter the US from Canada, which meant most people could cross that border without passport. Plenty of Americans have either never left the country or only traveled to Canada thus never needed a passport. (Kind of a big country.)

      So yes, it is new for them to have to carry passports, which aren’t nearly as convenient as the existing state IDs which fit in a wallet, as well as, kind of a pain in the ass to replace if lost or stolen – it can take months to get a replacement. (Ditto for PR cards; last time she renewed her it took 14 months(!).)

      As of a few years back you can now also get a “passport card” which is a federal ID (it is also a REAL ID, for you statesiders). I have both, and I do carry the card version with me.

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      I’m Canadian. I don’t drive but I have a government ID. I lost it once and didn’t get around to replacing it for like two years. I got along fine without it and was never stopped by police demanding I prove I’m a Canadian citizen. Couldn’t buy liquor though. There was no election during that time and it was before i started using weed. You need ID to drive, board a plane, buy certain products, and vote but you’re not expected or required to carry it everywhere you go.

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      12 hours ago

      I hope you run into some officer treating you like how ICE would, acting like your papers are fake

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      I am from other country. The only ID I am required to carry with me is driving licence while driving. And in most cases it won’t be a problem if you do not have it. It is advisable to have ID with you while crossing a border, and it is required when taking a plane.

      Besides that, I’m not required to carry any kind of ID with me at all. I am required to tell the police who I am when asked, and I am required to provide them with the ID if they need it. If they need it and I don’t have it, I can walk back home and give it to them or they can give me a lift back at home to get it.

      Now, if you’re a visiting foreigner it is still advisable to have some kind of ID on you. But that’s mainly to avoid the hassle of explaining where you left it and having to go get it with the police.

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      Hey neighbour, Canadians don’t have to carry ID everywhere we go. We have actual freedom here.

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      Most other countries don’t have police violently attack you and send you to some jungle prison for not carrying an ID.

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      well i am from “other countries” and I assure you, as a citizen, I dont need to carry my passport. ID card? sure but only if you need to do stuff that inbolves using the ID e.g. paperwork at gov office, driving license stuff…etc. So most of the time I just leave it at home.

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        But now you know about the “supposed to have” part. I prefer having my ID card in my wallet, but not having to be afraid to be randomly abducted by the KKK in uniform.

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      What are you just a walking meme parrot? Are you a bot? How is this a leopard face eating thing when there’s millions of people who didn’t vote for this and are afraid to get deported from the country they were born in. Either you still think it’s their fault for the way they were born or you don’t understand that the particular idiom refers to people who decided their own fates by choosing to hang out with leopards.