It was the answer ten years ago now we are in an authoritarian technofacist oligarchy that is “disappearing” people……womp womp. Day late and a private airplane bribe short there NYT
I’m here for the headline but the content was disappointing. Mamdani got more votes for his mayoral primary win than the Republican who beat Osborn for the Nebraska Senate in the general election (Mamdani 573k in round 2, 499k for Fischer ®, 436k for Osborn (D)).
So who does this guy talk about for most of the article? Osborn, of course.
Look, I get that there will probably be a mix of Osborns and Mamdanis and everything in between and probably even outside of that landscape. There will be people I will have to hold my nose and vote for because they will go after the literally evil billionaires preying on all of us, even if we won’t get their support for marginalized groups.
Even Ta Nehisi Coates said that he would have supported FDR in his recent sit down with class traitor Ezra Klein, even though FDR sold black Americans down the river.
Man. FUCK the nyt.
NYT? is that the same NYT that was telling Democrats for decades that the only reason they aren’t winning is because they aren’t Republican enough?
OK, gift article, you have my attention…
…nah, it’s just more of the same
edit: I was listening to a Cory Doctorow interview yesterday and he had some very interesting things to say and I was reminded of this article again. Talk was long, interesting and meandering, but this was one of the things that reminded me
The moment I saw it was NYT, my eyebrows were raised.
And yep. It’s the same BS.
Thank you for the TL:DR flavor text.
Oligarchy destroyed the social contract and forced nihilism amongst the youth. It’s why the entire world is tilting authoritarian. Democrats need to pivot hard into proper wealth taxation otherwise things will only devolve further. It’s a moral imperative at this point.
forced nihilism amongst the youth
As they say, idle hands spend time at the genitals!
Americans need to learn to differentiate between the vehicle and the driver. The democratic party will not affect change until the vast majority of it’s sitting members are primaried.
No need to fix an election when the rich own all the horses in the race.
It would be nice if people under 50 showed up to the primary. Most incumbent wins are just old people using name recognition to “not rock the boat”.
Sorry, everybody under 50 has to work at the capitalism on Tuesdays.
We’re technically ‘allowed to leave’, but will fall behind on rent immediately. All three sick days have been used up.
Yea we keep making random national holidays on every day but voting day. Its crazy how we can just add a banking holiday when ever, but chose not to do November 5th
Louder for DC ig.
Maybe we just write the bills and invent semi convincing press releases for them now as ratification.
Turning it over a few ways… How would that be for a all in general strike day? pro and con. Mostly pro?
I mean the big problem is always actually The Bills, The Job, The Kids/Dependants, getting there. (and i.d. if you can’t afford to rent an address).
(edit, add last paragraph)
A general strike would be nice if it went with a political gathering. Striking the current system while trying to rebuild or reclaim what’s worth keeping. A general strike without a cohesive demand and plan for the future is going to be wasted.
general strike/bbq holiday until it becomes national?
The more I live to think on it, the more I think tailgating(sport potluck in farm machinery) may be the missing piece of the modern american strike in mainstream thought.
relatable mobile potluck.
It’s absolutely there on the ground in left protest culture. I mean, any protest big enough or long enough eventually has real anarchists doing their classic number of show up to feed everyone, with alergy and creed options, usually.
Personally I can stand some YeeHaw if everybody gets equity.
Even in Canada they are they trying to enact patriot act style legislation to appease American companies… and there is not now, nor has there ever been, a terrorist justification for it.
Wealth taxation may be an important men’s to an end, but in our discourse we need to emphasize more what benefits would be planned for the tax revenue.
Reducing the wealth of greedy assholes is nice, but by itself only gets so far.
Yea. that’s kind of the problem, no one in power has a plan for education, healthcare, housing, wage stagnation, two-tiered job market, or anything really. But one of the benefits would be not running up a deficit. We spend way too much on interest payments, and we really don’t see the pay off for the money being borrowed. It’s time for a new government the old one broke itself with greed.
🔫 always has been
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NYT “Eat the Rich Populism”: Angrily posting memes at a few select right-wing billionaires and a bunch of foreigners, particularly in China
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Actual “Eat the Rich Populism”: Nationalizing critical infrastructure that’s being horded by the billionaire class in the aggregate
Pull up the societal ladders that allow people to become billionaires in the first place. Transferring a nations wealth from 5 pairs of hands to 10 pairs of hands once a generation is not a realistic long term governance
Nationalizing? I hope you mean socializing
He means, we’re going to take back all the shit we paid for. All that socialize the cost privatize the profits infrastructure & R&D are ours now. Nationalize everything, trump already created precedent with the intel deal. They took our money we take their company. Glory to USSofA
Start with Space X and Starlink. We paid for all of that. Musk got rich by skimming billions from government contracts. Take all that money back, too.
He can keep Tesla, it will be bankrupt in 2 years anyway.
That’s what I’ve been saying for years lol
Nah, let’s take Tesla’s factories and repurpose them for agricultural drones. Although I have a tinfoil hat theory that these factories will be used to make a domestic use drone army.
Easy. We nationalize the government too. That way it owns itself, and we own the government. No more billionaires in politics.
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After FDR the establishment has done everything possible to prevent this.
The comments section is closed with a pinned request of the author shocked he got backlash.
I wish I could follow up with this guy.
Probably call the editor for approving it.
Weird how the media still won’t acknowledge the progressives have control of the DNC & the neo-libs are on the way out.
lol what? Progressives absolutely do not have control over the Democratic Party. They’re the only ones doing anything so they get the media attention, but the neo-libs still hold all of the power in the party.
Yes, if you bothered to read the entire thread you’d see I just learned Hogg was pushed out in June, thanks.
Since when? I thought they used procedural bullshit to keep Hogg out
God damnit, you’re right, I missed that in June.
In that case, burn it down.
The Progressives are the only segment of the left that has any concept of what they are doing or has a plan for the future. The rest are just flailing aimlessly, and reacting incompetently to MAGA treason, abuse, and corruption.
Their primary priority seems to be preventing a Progressive takeover by any means necessary, including helping MAGA to win, rather than allow a progressive administration.
Democrats are the crisis that they manufactured
IMO people need to rally behind new progressive candidates and primary more than 50% of the sitting party in 2026. About 75% of the party are incompetent at best and complicit at worst.
People need to look past the individual members of the progressive caucus like AOC and realize the monumental organization it took to get her elected.
Republicans fix elections. Democrats fix primaries.
Progressives need messaging and a concise platform. ‘Fix housing, healthcare, inflation, immigration, monopolies, LGBT rights, income inequality, unemployment, gerrymandering, climate, education…’ Everyone who’s even capable of listening past 4 objectives knows they’re not all going to happen and assumes that means they’re all bullshit.
I’ve really been liking “Tax wealth not work” but I’ll take anything stronger than “return to normalcy.”
I’ll take anything stronger than “return to normalcy.”
You mean the normalcy that allowed Trump1.0 to happen in the first place, and allowed Trump2.0 to grab and pervert as much power as he has now? I fully agree, there is a larger lesson to be learned from all this than “phew, thankfully the Democrats won this time, and Trump can’t run again”. There are systemic problems behind all this.
The problem is that Progressives are about… progress. And we all have our own priorities.
If you make the entire platform “Trans rights” then you are going to have women and “minorities” wondering why you are abandoning them and so many others wondering about economic support and so forth.
Don’t believe me? Look at how many dumbfucks proudly turned the 2024 Presidential election into a single issue election where, somehow, they still decided that Biden (Kamala who?) would be worse than trump when it comes to Palestine. EVERYTHING else was ignored.
Whereas chuds just want to hurt people. And while they might prefer their bogeyman get hurt more, they can still be happy to know that at least THOSE people are getting hurt.
The problem isn’t focusing on one issue. The problem is that periodically, performative centrists will seek to prove their centrism by performatively sacrificing a minority group on the pyre.
Democrats are a coalition party. They can’t afford to sacrifice a chunk of their base in a vain attempt to appeal to suburban white Republicans. Democrats need to keep their coalition together, which is far more diverse than the Republican coalition that mostly caters to straight white Christians.
Democrats from time to time are tempted to pick one or two of the minority groups in their coalition to throw into a woodchipper. The thought process is that if they just sacrifice the one group the right is screaming the loudest about, that somehow they can get Republicans to vote Democrat. It never works, but it plays to the biases of the Democratic leadership, who themselves are largely straight white Christians.
2024 wasn’t about Palestinian activists demanding the entire campaign be made about them. What happened in 2024 was that Democrats decided that it was the Palestinian-Americans turn to be thrown onto the pyre, a ritual sacrifice to attempt to win straight white Christian votes. The leadership made the calculus that by sacrificing Palestinian Americans, they would gain more votes than they would lose. Muslim Americans would inevitably refuse to support Democrats for abandoning them, but Democrats would gain more Republican and Zionist voters in return. The DNC didn’t want Palestinians and their allies to vote for them; they wanted Republicans to vote for them.
That calculus didn’t work. The Palestinians had a lot more friends than the DNC gambled when they decided to sacrifice them. And it cost the Democrats the election.
Ultimately, what side would be best for Palestine is completely irrelevant. This was an active conscious choice on the part of DNC leadership. They actively chose to abandon Palestinians and their allies. They did so knowing full well it would cost them a ton of votes. They just gambled that they would win more bigot votes in return. That gamble failed, and then they turned around and blamed the loss on the people they fully expected to not vote for them, entirely due to their own conscious choices and actions.
Not even the DNC are stupid enough to expect the votes of people they deliberately choose to sacrifice. But, apparently that bar isn’t one you’re able to clear.
Ultimately, what side would be best for Palestine is completely irrelevant
And that about sums everything up and why “just focus on one issue” would never work.
Democrats don’t mind fascism as long as they are the ones doing it. If someones red lines isnt letting brown people around the world get killed I don’t care what else they support, they are protecting THEIR self interests over the lives of others and can’t be trusted when they call themselves allies to the marginalized.
Odd downvotes. You’re just quoting text books. Rich democrats are rich first. Conflict Model social study boils down somewhat to “Those in control of a power imbalance will strive to maintain imbalance in their favor.”
Maybe some bruised blue hearts? Come to socialism, anarchy, communism, solarpunk. We have something for everyone at the bakedgoods table. Seeds sharing break game theory’s fallicies.
Focusing on the platform just unilaterally raises the bar for people voting democrat. As you’ve identified, many people do not have the attention span for all of that.
Plus it is not mutually exclusive that the democratic party is both part of the problem and the only viable vehicle to platform solutions. In fact, that is one of the messages the GOP has used quite successfully. “Drain the swamp.”
If you have not watched the documentary I linked above than I must politely suggest to you that you may not be aware of all the underhanded systematic tactics employed against progressive candidates. People are missing the forest for the trees when it comes to democracy. No need to fix elections when the rich own 95% of the horses in the race.
Progressives would naturally do better in elections if they didn’t have 2 parties spending billions of dollars to keep them out of power.
Progressives need to fully commit to grass roots electoral organization.
Republicans fix elections, democrats fix primaries.
All Americans need to commit to grass roots elections and candidates. We gave away our political responsibilities for convenience
Same thing here. There was a brief period where I thought I could just worry about my own affairs, get a little informed, then vote once in a while — trusting there were adults in charge of the boring business of government, with our collective best interests in mind — well, fuck me for assuming those that seek power would know how to use it responsibly, because now I’ve got to get involved in my local politics and activism just to be a good citizen Ig. But God damn do I wish I could just focus on handling my own personal shit, because that is hard enough on its own, let me tell you…
Yea I’m mid generation millennials. I also took too long to politically mature. My grandmother is 95 and has always been involved with politics. My mom is 65 and she’s a primary voter, don’t think she ever politically matured tho. The silent generation was the last active participant in civics. Got lost on the rest of us.
It’s a little beside the point, but:
75% of the party are incompetent at best and complicit at worst.
Compared to Republicans, where the number is practically 100%.
We just need to agree to abandon the two party system. We’re supposed to be sending members of our communities to Congress, not members of a party
Ranked choice and/or proportional representation needs to happen before a third party can work.
I from Maine, we have ranked choice voting and we have sent an independent to the senate for the last 30 years. You can do it too! Anyone can really. You just ignore the donor class candidates and vote for the person not on TV 50 times a day! A lot of you do need to work on your local elections laws, great place to start fighting.
That’s as true as it is easier said than done.
It’s really not, there’s like 10 dudes running for those positions who will never get 1,000 tv ads, but you can still vote for them and use social media to advocate.
Respectfully… you are 10000000000th person to suggest this; and it still hasn’t happened yet.
You’re not wrong.
It’s just easier said than done!
It only gets harder as all the public resources around information, education, and activism are high jacked by the two party system. Citizens initiatives are never easy, but we don’t have any notable ones right now. Would be a good time to get some. Dissatisfaction with both parties is at all time highs, it wouldn’t be hard to get some simple yet strong legislation pushed through at that level.
Reform will never work, anyone challenging the current system will never be given any committees or positions of power within the party that threaten the existence the status quo
Reform will never work
Behold! The rallying cry of people who’ve tried nothing and are out of ideas.
Y’all are unironically the leftist equivalent of MAGA’s Meal Team 6.
Do you think they were hinting for inaction, or for revolution?
How well is repeating the same fuck ups over the last 50 years working out for ya?
Quite well. Not that I’d expect someone who can’t wrap their heads around American politics to understand Canadian civics.
Democrats have been discussing strategy since their loss in November. They’ve come up with use populist rhetoric for elections but stick to neoliberal policy.
Oh is it finally time to eat?
Nyt still doesn’t get it.
NYT Opinion column again
