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    Unfortunately the democrats are made up of assholes like Pelosi and Schumer who are just there to get rich.

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    Schumer will shake his finger at you vigorously with the glasses on his nose if you don’t stop misbehaving

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      I mean, they have a point. DNC chairs shouldn’t be picking winners. Hogg is free to make his own path. If there is internal corruption he should start by exposing it.

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              Remember Debbie Wasserman Shultz and how everyone was pissed at her for pulling strings for Hilary?

              We don’t need to recreate that.

              I think there could be arguments that the DNC could set their agenda and eject anyone who opposes it but just trying to root people out through back door deals is not great.

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                So I remember a political party behaving like one? Yeah, I do.

                The party spends money on candidates that’s how politics works (which sucks but whatever).

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    And the Democrats won’t do that unless the people make politicians fear the consequences of attempting a dictatorship.

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      And people won’t do that because a large well-funded security state stands between them and the political class.

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        If that’s what happens then so be it, but it’s still worth doing for the sake of doing.

        Also it would highlight the complicity of others so i think the value is still there…even if/when they give him a pass

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        As long as it’s public, whatever floats your boat.

        The fascists need to be scared. It’s okay to show them why in the middle of times square.

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    I’m not so sure they even want that at all. Simply because of their shameful behavior, while the US president acts like a goddamn Nazi (because he obviously is one, of course).

    But for all that, the Democrats have refused to allow even a little progressiveness in their ranks for years, against the wishes of their own voters.

    But hey, I don’t know very much about all this because I’m from Germany.

    All I can say is that in our country - and this applies to larger parts Europe - Sanders, for example, would be a moderate center-left politician. What he is calling for is not at all radical in many parts of the world, but rather quite normal. Basic decency, so to speak…

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      Yup. The Democratic party is the Republican party of 40 years ago. The Republicans are obviously now literal nazis, fascists, kkk, the worst of the worst. That’s all we have and they have no interest in changing that.

      Many of us like Sanders because he is a vocal option that is at least left of the status quo. But there are also so many of us that want European left policies. We just can’t get it to happen in a winner takes all style of representation. And capitalism.

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        Yes, unfortunately, I think the US has been a plutocracy for way too long already.

        I think it’s time for US citizens to admit that and change it for good. Of course, I’m fully aware that many Lemmy users have long realized this.

        I really don’t want to offend anyone with this obvious statement, but it’s simply a fact that many people in the USA have been living like in a third world country for a very long time - even though the US is one of the richest countries in the world.

        The reason for this is very obvious: shameless enrichment of the rich and powerful - hardly any difference to Russia imo - more humane means so far, yes, but the effect is basically the same.

        This is not meant as an insult at all. I just can’t believe how obvious the corruption in the USA is: Even in the highest offices. People like the President himself or Clarence Thomas (so on and so on) obviously no longer feel the need to be ashamed of anything - they don’t even try to keep any of their criminal activities even remotely secret.

        Our system is certainly not perfect and we also have major problems with corruption and also with the resurgence of fascist parties. But the level of open corruption in the USA is still mind blowing to me: The shameless insider deals of the president, the unscrupulousness of constitutional judges who so obviously rule against the constitution! I can’t even begin to name even half of it.

        Unconditional immunity for presidents? Imprisonment of innocent people without due process? Prisons for profit? I think that’s wild and only possible in a failed state!

        I mean, you really don’t have to be an expert in constitutional law to realize that any even halfway decent democratic constitution would of course rigorously rule all this out.

        I myself can only observe this from afar and helplessly feel sorry for all the good and still rationally thinking US citizen.

        Of course, I have no solutions. Only the obvious thought that the US institutions have long been corrupted.

        I wish you all the best and try to contribute at least something from afar - but unfortunately I have little hope, because I honestly believe that the US system is broken beyond repair.

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          No offense taken. We know we’re “a third sold country in a Gucci belt”. It’s not that it started 40 years ago, but that’s when it really took off, this speedrun to transferring wealth and power to the already wealthy. They purposely cut funding to education to make an easily manipulated populace, and have been using fear propaganda relentlessly for longer.

          We also learned last time Trump was elected that most of our country was held together by gentlemen’s agreements and the idea that our constitution never considered irrational people would be elected.

          Our system is broken, and the ones with the power to do anything about it have no interest in doing so.

          I honestly don’t know how we recover from this. Stopping Trump is a bandaid. Rooting out the cancer… 🤷🏼‍♂️

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          It drives me insane how people idolize these criminals. They will dismiss anything criticizing billionaires as “commie liberal bullshit” and go back to their charlie kirk. The US is and has been completely brainwashed. I can’t tell ypu the weird looks I get when I come right out and say “the billionaires are the problem. Stop using Twitter and amazon”. They act like that is total insanity.

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    They held up little signs, begged for bipartisanship, and voted for Republican only written bills. I mean what more do you want from them!

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    Real Democrats need to ditch the establishment Dems and form their own version of MAGA from within and get shit done.

    I saw yesterday where they were going to sideline David Hogg because he was becoming a little too dangerous to some of the members of the ‘Do Nothing’ party.

    What a waste.

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      Yeah Hogg was dropping some good shit last week. That got him in trouble. Now they want him to shut up.

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      If you watch the Bernie/AOC rally vids, that is what he’s trying to inspire. One vid has a nurse from the crowd talking about working 7 days a week, to live, and she frankly says the old people need to retire, calling out both Pelosi and Schumer. She’s right. Conservatives also attending.

      Younger people need to compete with and oust the established Dems, like AOC did in her district, or we will never see a fresh approach.

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        If we still have elections in the upcoming years, it would be fantastic for people like AOC to run for public office all around the nation.

        In fact if you are in a position to, I would encourage everyone reading this to take a moment to look up your state’s candidate filing procedures and see how you can try taking an official’s job that they’re not doing. Just because you may not have the millions in funding doesn’t mean you can’t or won’t have a shot at winning.

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      Meanwhile everybody is complaining about how dumb Meidas Touch is. Excuse me, are we not even going to bother copying Fox News feeding talking points to people with a pulse?

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    The Democratic leadership seems to have decided that the way to do this is “get out of their way and let them complete an irreversible takeover and descent into fascism”.