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  • First, that was a really nice story, thank you for taking the time to write all of that out

    Secondly, yeah, the intellectual colonization of Christianity is a really tragic thing. I was personally raised by people who had been abused by the kind of conservative and dominating religion you described when they were kids and who had left their churches, so I was allowed to believe whatever I wanted growing up and just relate to the Bible as a collection of cool stories and good quotes (as well as some weird and bad ones), imo not as good as Kurt Vonnegut but better a lot better than Tom Clancy (look I read whatever was on the shelves of my local library whether it was good or not).

    What I’m trying to say there is it isn’t a personal thing for me either way, because I never really got bullied by a bad church or had a strong family connection with a good one. But I have seen both of these things in other people, and either way, whether they hate/fear the church or associate or with family and community, the reflexive emotional responses those people have had were undeniably genuine and persistent. Those experiences (along with a lot of neurological research suggesting most human beings have brains that are structurally predisposed towards wanting a connection with a god-like force, which is probably why so many separate groups have independently come up with religions) have really convinced me that religious belief is an almost inextricably deep part of a person’s psyche (a lot like sexuality and gender actually).

    And yeah, there have definitely been concerted efforts by states and rich people and tyrannical assholes of all sorts who want to use this thing that has such a deep hold on most people to justify themselves since Constantine. But also there’s a bunch of examples of this backfiring and religion causing people to rebel, from Martin Luther to John Brown. And also, there’s a ton of examples of religion bringing people together from sides that shouldn’t have gotten along and getting them to work together, from the Christmas truce in WWI to the American Civil Rights movement bringing white churches from the north to volunteer alongside black churches in the south to register black voters.

    So, yeah, religious belief is a really complicated thing with good and bad aspects, but it is a powerful thing and something everyone needs to sort out for themselves one way or another. It sounds like you’re walking your path now and I’m glad to hear it!


  • Speaking as an agnostic, this site is a bit too eager to shit on religious folks. Only a bit, because I know a whole lot of evil has been done in the names of gods and I know the frustration of arguing with someone who just explains everything with “god’s got a plan” or some other unverifiable claim,

    But ffs, read the fuckin’ room. Fascism is ascendant and we need the biggest coalition we can get to beat it back into a corner. Besides that, Christians in particular are all about righteously walking into lion’s dens in the face of certain death over things they believe, and honestly that is the exact kinda energy we are going to need from a lot of people if we are going to get through this. Also, doesn’t hurt that they are organized as fuck and a lot do praxis like food pantries and other mutual aid on the regular. You don’t have to believe anything to recognize we’d be doing the fascists a favor by not try to ally with these people.




  • Yeah, a better version of this article would talk about how Minneapolis has actually always been a kinda radical town, from the general strike in the 30s, AIM being founded there in the 60s, and the whole co-op wars stupidity that happened in the 70s, all the way through the RNC and Occupy protests in the 2000s. Like, there have been self identified anarchists in that city for almost a hundred years at least, and that has got at least as much to do with what we’re seeing as “patriotic and Christian values” do.