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  • Ullallulloo@civilloquy.comEnglish
    35136·
    2 years ago

    Hezbollah are enemy combatants. These were ordered by and for Hezbollah. Israel isn’t targeting non-combatants.

    • mosiacmango@lemm.eeEnglish
      10310·
      2 years ago

      They verified that all of the devices were in the possession of Hezbollah before they detonated them?

      Is what why their pager terrorism killed a child and caused 2000+ injuries, including dismemberment of other children?

      Now they just repeated it, I’m sure with the same disregard for living people they have already shown.

      • nonailsleft@lemm.eeEnglish
        1473·
        2 years ago

        What do you think about Hezbollah reopening the hostilities back in October? Do you believe they could have prevented all this bloodshed if they just kept the border in peace?

        • Madison420@lemmy.worldEnglish
          6411·
          2 years ago

          What do you think about Israel never ceasing hostilities?

          For real, read a book every once in awhile.

          • nonailsleft@lemm.eeEnglish
            1256·
            2 years ago

            But Israel did cease hostilities, right untill Hezbollah started them again…

            • Madison420@lemmy.worldEnglish
              407·
              2 years ago

              No they didn’t. They very specifically never stopped actions in countries they aren’t at war with and notably as the article states THEY WERE PLANTING BOMBS IN CIVILIAN ITEMS again in countries they aren’t at war with.

              • nonailsleft@lemm.eeEnglish
                842·
                2 years ago

                These bomb-planting shenanigans only began after Hezbollah restarted the hostilities

                Also, why do you consider devices used for military communications as civilian items (in all caps no less)

                • Madison420@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  237·
                  2 years ago

                  This is the second round of bombings with seemingly benign objects.

                  They are quite literally bought OTC they are in fact civilian objects, that’s why terrorists use them…

                  Seriously, a book… once.

                  • nonailsleft@lemm.eeEnglish
                    514·
                    2 years ago

                    These weren’t bought ‘over the counter’, these were bought en masse from the producer and specifically meant for military use

            • technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.comBanned from communityEnglish
              32·
              2 years ago

              Zios were murdering palestinians at record rates well before they started full genocide 1, 2.

              People inside the imperial core are generally completely ignorant and brainwashed about the reality of zionist genocide.

              • nonailsleft@lemm.eeEnglish
                31·
                2 years ago

                Ah, yes. History started in '22.

                You sound like you’re ready to shoot every ‘zio’ they put in front of you, no questions asked

                • liuther9@feddit.nlEnglish
                  11·
                  2 years ago

                  You seem like you forgot how terrifying Hitler was. Now your nation is repeating the same shit

          • nonailsleft@lemm.eeEnglish
            642·
            2 years ago

            It’s whataboutism to say someone shouldn’t have started the fight in the first place?

            • BreadstickNinja@lemmy.worldEnglish
              284·
              2 years ago

              The “fight” started with the colonization of Palestine, the theft of indigenous land, and the expulsion of half the native populace. Naming a random date or event in the past couple of years as the “start” of this conflict is brazenly dishonest.

              Every year, Israel expands its land seizures in occupied Palestine, but for some reason you don’t count that as sustaining hostilities. Sounds an awful lot like you’re willing to excuse Israeli terrorism while holding others to a different standard.

              • nonailsleft@lemm.eeEnglish
                521·
                2 years ago

                Would you say that because of your personal understanding of the history, you’d consider any act of Hezbollah against Israel as justified, and any act of Israel to stop them as unjustified?

                • BreadstickNinja@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  142·
                  2 years ago

                  No, I condemn all attacks against civilians. Hard to imagine, I’m sure, for someone who sees only one belligerent’s citizens as human.

                  But I am pointing out the ludicrous misrepresentation of history that Hezbollah “started” any aspect of this conflict. Hezbollah was created in response to Israel’s invasion of Lebanon. Israel invaded Lebanon because the PLO was launching attacks on Israel from southern Lebanon. The PLO was in Lebanon and before that in Jordan because they were driven out of their native homeland and made refugees due to the colonization of Palestine.

                  There is no aspect of this conflict that does not tie directly back to the violent disappropriation and explusion of the Palestinian people from their land. The conflict is and has always been about theft of land and homes, which continues unabated through the present day.

                  • nonailsleft@lemm.eeEnglish
                    39·
                    2 years ago

                    And do you think Hezbollah restarting the hostilities after almost two decades of de facto ceasefire was helpful for the civilians? Which civilians have gained anything from it? The dead?

                  • nonailsleft@lemm.eeEnglish
                    525·
                    2 years ago

                    Are you living in some Bizarroworld where it’s Israel that broke the ceasefire with Hezbollah back in October?

              • nonailsleft@lemm.eeEnglish
                38·
                2 years ago

                Ok, so in your mind, the year is 1982. Israel just invaded Southern Lebanon and is fighting the PLO. Nothing like Israel withdrawing, the entire Lebanese civil war, the '90s, the 2006 war, the events of 2023 has happened. 1982 Hezbollah received some missiles from the future and fired them at some Israelis that haven’t been born yet.

                It is forever 1982, and the killing will never end

        • technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.comBanned from communityEnglish
          15·
          2 years ago

          Peace was never part of the plan for colonial genocide. Have you ever seen the zio genocide map? They’re planning on invading every neighboring state, stealing the land, and continuing with genocide.

          Why steal just one state when you can steal the whole region? It’s what god wants his chosen people to do. smh.

          • nonailsleft@lemm.eeEnglish
            22·
            2 years ago

            Wow that’s really interesting!

            Can you share some more info on Israel’s plan to conquer half the Middle East? This sounds very realistic now that you’ve mentioned it

    • Navarian@lemm.eeEnglish
      847·
      2 years ago

      Israel isn’t targeting non-combatants

      How many thousands of children have been slaughtered by Israeli troops?

      If you want to be pedantic, and you’re talking only about this specific attack, children were killed in these pager/walkie-talkie blasts too. Are they enemy combatants to you?

      Don’t be a genocide apologist.

    • acargitz@lemmy.caEnglish
      333·
      2 years ago

      So, like, are Israeli reservists fair game for terror attacks?

        • acargitz@lemmy.caEnglish
          206·
          2 years ago

          And your evidence that Israel only targetted active duty Hezbollah combattants?

        • aodhsishaj@lemmy.worlddeleted by creatorEnglish
          821·
          2 years ago

          You know you can just not type right? These thoughts that just stream into your head, they don’t need to be shared. You can also read sources and understand that “military comms” can’t accurately be targeted by this attack because of the very nature of radio. Nobody is logging into a badguy frequency and being targeted and identified. Thats not how any of this could possibly work.

          • Ullallulloo@civilloquy.comEnglish
            1217·
            2 years ago

            Israel put bombs in pagers and radios and secretly sold them to Hezbollah. The only people who therefore would have had them were people Hezbollah gave them to to coordinate with. You can’t really get more targeted than that. There’s not some magic Jewish radio waves blowing up civilian radios lol.

            • Inktvip@lemm.eeEnglish
              83·
              2 years ago

              Except that these pagers were distributed to more than just hezbollah. AUB (American university of Beirut) medical workers had them too, for example.

            • Pips@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
              44·
              2 years ago

              So Israel planted explosives in known communication devices, that could easily be tracked or also had pinpoint tracking technology included with the explosive, then deliberately waited until the intended targets could cause collateral damage to unarmed civilians to set them off? And you argue this is different from terrorism in what way?

            • technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.comBanned from communityEnglish
              12·
              2 years ago

              Israel put bombs in pagers and radios and secretly sold them to Hezbollah. The only people who therefore would have had them were people Hezbollah

              According to you. The cowards responsible haven’t admitted anything.

              But in reality they killed kids and many other innocent people as is usual for these genocidal terrorists.

    • irotsoma@lemmy.worldEnglish
      91·
      2 years ago

      Hezbollah is a political party as well as a paramilitary group. What if Canada did this to The Oath Keepers or CSPOA or The Proud Boys or another group in the US? They’re all objectively bad people, buy only a few have committed terrorist attacks. Do they all and the people who happen to be around them deserve to die by a foreign government’s actions?

        • irotsoma@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2·
          2 years ago

          Not the point. They’re a paramilitary terrorist organisation that has been denounced by Canada in the past.

          But OK then Mexico or China, they preach the destruction of Mexico and China pretty often. And many of their terror attacks have been against people of Mexican and Asian descent. But again, not the point.

            • irotsoma@lemmy.worldEnglish
              11·
              2 years ago

              Google it. These groups were attacking Asians (not even Chinese because they don’t know the difference) during COVID because Trump said they were responsible for it and/or made it up to allow the government to inject microchips and/or transgender inducing substances and all the other conspiracies. And these groups are highly anti-immigrant and are constantly attacking people they consider “Mexican” and supported calls by Trump and far-right pundits to bomb Mexico to reduce immigration and cartel crime. But again this is off subject as this is an example of what a similar attack on the a US extremist group by a foreign country would be like.

              These are extremist paramilitary groups just like Hezbollah. But they still don’t deserve to have their families killed by bombs put in their products by foreign governments.

                • irotsoma@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  21·
                  2 years ago

                  Once again, the type of weapons they use is irrelevant to using them as an example of terrorist/political groups being targeted by an indiscriminate terror attack from a foreign government. Your apologist attitude towards them is exactly why they get a free pass to murder and incite others to murder just because some other group uses bigger guns than them to once in a while murder an overall fewer amount of people per member of their own organization. So if you’re incapable of understanding the implications of government sponsored terrorism in a foreign land just because the people use rockets instead of rifles and media pundits as their weapons, I suppose it’s futile to continue.