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minus-squareBreadstickNinja@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up28arrow-down4·2 years agoThe “fight” started with the colonization of Palestine, the theft of indigenous land, and the expulsion of half the native populace. Naming a random date or event in the past couple of years as the “start” of this conflict is brazenly dishonest. Every year, Israel expands its land seizures in occupied Palestine, but for some reason you don’t count that as sustaining hostilities. Sounds an awful lot like you’re willing to excuse Israeli terrorism while holding others to a different standard.
minus-squarenonailsleft@lemm.eelinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up5arrow-down21·2 years agoWould you say that because of your personal understanding of the history, you’d consider any act of Hezbollah against Israel as justified, and any act of Israel to stop them as unjustified?
minus-squareBreadstickNinja@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up14arrow-down2·edit-22 years agoNo, I condemn all attacks against civilians. Hard to imagine, I’m sure, for someone who sees only one belligerent’s citizens as human. But I am pointing out the ludicrous misrepresentation of history that Hezbollah “started” any aspect of this conflict. Hezbollah was created in response to Israel’s invasion of Lebanon. Israel invaded Lebanon because the PLO was launching attacks on Israel from southern Lebanon. The PLO was in Lebanon and before that in Jordan because they were driven out of their native homeland and made refugees due to the colonization of Palestine. There is no aspect of this conflict that does not tie directly back to the violent disappropriation and explusion of the Palestinian people from their land. The conflict is and has always been about theft of land and homes, which continues unabated through the present day.
minus-squarenonailsleft@lemm.eelinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up3arrow-down9·2 years agoAnd do you think Hezbollah restarting the hostilities after almost two decades of de facto ceasefire was helpful for the civilians? Which civilians have gained anything from it? The dead?
minus-squareshaserlark@sh.itjust.workslinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up8arrow-down1·2 years agoAnd do you think the colonization of Palestine, the establishment of an apartheid regime and the subsequent genocide of Palestinians was helpful?
minus-squarenonailsleft@lemm.eelinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up2arrow-down10·2 years agoHistory is just a tad bit more complicated than you seem to be aware of, but do you really think Hezbollah (and Hamas) reigniting the conflict made the world better? Which other conflicts would you like to see reignited?
minus-squaretechnocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.comBanned from communitylinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up2·2 years agoYour premise is as wacky and false as zionism.
The “fight” started with the colonization of Palestine, the theft of indigenous land, and the expulsion of half the native populace. Naming a random date or event in the past couple of years as the “start” of this conflict is brazenly dishonest.
Every year, Israel expands its land seizures in occupied Palestine, but for some reason you don’t count that as sustaining hostilities. Sounds an awful lot like you’re willing to excuse Israeli terrorism while holding others to a different standard.
Would you say that because of your personal understanding of the history, you’d consider any act of Hezbollah against Israel as justified, and any act of Israel to stop them as unjustified?
No, I condemn all attacks against civilians. Hard to imagine, I’m sure, for someone who sees only one belligerent’s citizens as human.
But I am pointing out the ludicrous misrepresentation of history that Hezbollah “started” any aspect of this conflict. Hezbollah was created in response to Israel’s invasion of Lebanon. Israel invaded Lebanon because the PLO was launching attacks on Israel from southern Lebanon. The PLO was in Lebanon and before that in Jordan because they were driven out of their native homeland and made refugees due to the colonization of Palestine.
There is no aspect of this conflict that does not tie directly back to the violent disappropriation and explusion of the Palestinian people from their land. The conflict is and has always been about theft of land and homes, which continues unabated through the present day.
And do you think Hezbollah restarting the hostilities after almost two decades of de facto ceasefire was helpful for the civilians? Which civilians have gained anything from it? The dead?
And do you think the colonization of Palestine, the establishment of an apartheid regime and the subsequent genocide of Palestinians was helpful?
History is just a tad bit more complicated than you seem to be aware of, but do you really think Hezbollah (and Hamas) reigniting the conflict made the world better?
Which other conflicts would you like to see reignited?
Your premise is as wacky and false as zionism.