• foggy@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    😂

    Holy shit, did Putin give Iran the pee tapes or something?

    I don’t think the USA has ever had such a humiliating loss in war.

    Could he have gotten a worse deal?

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      There’s also a broader implication here.

      If the US ever goes to war with China (by necessity it choice), for the foreseeable future all China has to do is have their ally choke off the strait of Hormuz and the US will crumple in months.

      The reason the US is surrendering is because they are about to lose oil production capacity domestically; they hit the threshold of not enough oil to pressurize domestic pipelines.

      That happened because they never filled the strategic reserve, and lashed out at any price increases, and bragged about how they can now sell so much extra oil now.

      So any conflict with China will utterly destroy the US (and world) economy. The US is too far into late stage capitalism to ween off oil, so they’re fucked by their own choices.

      The US is now officially unable to combat China.

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        And that’s ignoring that a war with China will mean access to the world’s factory will be cut off, meaning shelves in stores will go bare and prices will skyrocket even more for things produced outside of China (assuming China isn’t involved in some way in another part of that supply chain).

        • ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world
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          The notion of us (the US) winning a real war when we don’t fucking make anything any more is beyond ludicrous. We won WWII (and WWI for that matter) because we made nearly fucking everything at the time. And whatever we didn’t make we could have made if necessary.

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      Yes. And they will because Lebanon is still in this deal and Netanyahu has ALL the Epstein files anf no desire to leave Lebanon

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      I dunno, Vietnam and Afghanistan were pretty embarrassing too but just on a longer timeline

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      He has so many footnotes by his name now, we may have run out of conventional symbols to use, and now have emojis for some of his exceptions to a typical President.

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      9/11 was the first sacking of Rome

      This is the second sacking?

      Soon will we see Trump pleading for a foreign emperor to save him from having his powers stripped away…?

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        Rome fell when the Emperor became nothing more than a puppet of powerful warlords, government institutions were corrupted by the rich elite, taxes were spent on grotesque spectacles and bribes instead of infrastructure, and its allies couldn’t rely on Rome’s protection anymore and turned away.
        Contributing factors may have been widespread lead poisoning and a changing climate.
        So nothing like the US…

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          Yeah that sounds absolutely nothing like what’s happening now.

          Side note: apparently the most common cause of an empire collapsing is an overproduction of elites who fight for money and power, and are willing to sell out their empire to foreign interests to get ahead of their peers.

          It would really suck to live in a world like that.

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    Israel will love that. But he’s right, Iran does have a right to a nuclear deterence same as everyone else.

    edit: oh, I see, trump was talking about nuclear power, not nuclear deterence. But with Israel saber rattling their nukes I think Iran has a fair right to their own on a ground of right of self defense of an obvious aggressor.

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    *pounding feverishly*

    “Yeah baby. C’mon Donnie, say it. Tell me, who’s your ayatollah? Scream it loud! Who’s your ayatollah?”

    What a godamned embarrassment of a “man” and all those Republican sycophants right along with him.