Nah, it’s the disingenuous argument y’all constantly make that because the U.S. is a real piece of shit, it somehow undoes all the bullcrap China does and has done.
We’re constantly inundated with half-truth arguments from all sides and y’all just another talking head with the same terrible talking points.
Orange man and Winnie the Pooh can both go to hell together.
Do you really think that your arguments are somehow well thought out points and don’t scream propagandist mill?
to be fair, yes. they are and we do.
Wow I sure am seeing a lot of thinly veiled “but what about” and “that’s just propaganda you’re being lied to by your government and people online and no I will not provide you with anything other than mockery because lmao amiriteguyz” in these comments
Vague posting
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Whataboutism - The Media’s Favorite Rhetorical Shield Against Criticism of US PolicySince the beginning of what’s generally called ‘RussiaGate’ three years ago, pundits, media outlets, even comedians have all become insta-experts on supposed Russian propaganda techniques. The most cunning of these tricks, we are told, is that of “whataboutism” – a devious Soviet tactic of deflecting criticism by pointing out the accusers’ hypocrisy and inconsistencies. The tu quoque - or, “you, also” - fallacy, but with a unique Slavic flavor of nihilism, used by Trump and leftists alike in an effort to change the subject and focus on the faults of the United States rather than the crimes of Official State Enemies.
But what if “whataboutism” isn’t describing a propaganda technique, but in fact is one itself: a zombie phrase that’s seeped into everyday liberal discourse that – while perhaps useful in the abstract - has manifestly turned any appeal to moral consistency into a cunning Russian psyop. From its origins in the Cold War as a means of deflecting and apologizing for Jim Crow to its braindead contemporary usage as a way of not engaging any criticism of the United States as the supposed arbiter of human rights, the term “whataboutism” has become a term that - 100 percent of the time - is simply used to defend and legitimizing American empire’s moral narratives.
Cool, I don’t remember specifying any country, so I’m not sure why we’re talking as if I’m trying to defend us policy.
What point are you trying to make? A country that commits some of the most heinous atrocities in recent history and has serious flaws in their society like racism and inequality does NOT get to dictate and police others on these matters, especially in matters of morality. It’s completely ironic and hypocritical and not to mention reeks of chauvinism.
Apparently she’s just here to vaguepost.
And what country are we talking about, exactly? Are you sure you know?
You just seem ambiently angry
They’re fucking obviously talking about the USA. And you know that, you’re just being obtuse on purpose.
I don’t think the recently published map really supports this, it seems to be more between Russia and USA than China and USA
Someone in the comments on [the other site] called me a tankie for arguing that the USA has done way worse things than China in recent history, which prompted the meme. Apparently China shooting missiles into Taiwan waters is just as bad as the US bombing schoolgirls or something.
It’s not even between Russia and USA, the only people who see Russia as a bigger threat are Europeans. Even Americans now realize they’re the baddies.
Shoutout to Spain for not falling for it.
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All of which 100% excuses everything they are doing today.
And by everything they’re doing today you mean raising the standard of living for their people at an unprecedented rate?
😂
what is north korea doing rn? are they bombing anyone? are they massacring anyone? are they seiging anyone?
“everything”
Then name them.
Hundreds of thousands committed by DPRK during the war. http://m.monthly.chosun.com/client/news/viw.asp?nNewsNumb=200302100069
Just to be clear, S. Korea and the UN/US also committed war crimes, I’m not denying that.
As for what goes on in the DPRK since the war, not sure what sources I can offer that you will actually believe. I readily admit that the US is guilty of crimes against humanity at home and abroad. Can you say the same for the СССР, Russian Federation, PRC, DPRK, etc.?
The South was and still is under US occupation. Rhee led a fucking massacre on Jeju island against any suspected communists. The US and puppet Rhee suppressed any movement for independence and even today you can not express any sympathy for DPRK in occupied South. The military leader of the South is a US commander.
Oh, wow. Baited someone that argues about where Rus culture was born 1000 years ago and its relevance to modern events.
Couldn’t have asked for a better example of chauvinism.
What?
What does any of this have to do with chauvinism, btw? Isn’t chauvinism about sexism? Genuinely curious.
No, male chauvinism is about sexism. You accidentally a word.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/chauvinism
2: undue partiality or attachment to a group or place to which one belongs or has belonged
3: excessive or blind patriotism
Arguing if you or another group is the rightful heir of a culture falls under definition 2) or possibly 3)
Ok thanks, guess I was mixing it up with misogyny.
To be clear I’m not of any kind of Slavic heritage, just familiar with the history of the Kievan Rus and the purposeful campaign by Muscovy to take that name and then erase Ukrainian language and culture.
The dynasty that ruled Moscovy and eventually crowned themselves Tsar of Russia were Kievan Rus. Not sure how they’d ‘take’ what they already were.
Can you give examples? Both for war crimes as well as examples of imperialism?
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Lol you’ve got nothing
