• muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works
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    Right after the November elections. Hold out just a little longer guys and you will get your pound of flesh. We hit them all at the same time.

  • switcheroo@lemmy.world
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    It’d be nice is Russia can take back itself from that dick-tater… Get rid of all of Putin’s ilk, elect a decent person as president., power wash the stench away, peace talks with their neighbors, condemnation of the US Pedo Party. All that good stuff.

    Highly doubt it will happen.

    Damn, I want that for the US!

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      6 hours ago

      Take it back to what, though? The 1990s? I guess that’d be an improvement. What they really need is progress. Is there any kind of progressive movement in Russia?

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      I’m pretty sure any real communists in Russia would be brutally repressed.

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    13 hours ago

    “He emphasized that such a scenario must not be allowed to happen.”

    Controlled opposition.

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      leader of a communist party warns against starting a communist revolution

      mrw

    • Rioting Pacifist@lemmy.world
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      MLs are always controlled opposition (and always have been), just look at how quickly they team up with capitalists to take out any real socialists.

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          Spain, Korea, Ukraine, the Soviets.

          Any attempt at putting the workers in charge instead of the state is met with violence.

          It’s not controlled in the sense that capitalist control them, it’s just controlled in the sense that the state requires private property & structurally state-capitalism is closer to liberal-capitalism, so you get less pushback from the cops, bureaucrats, bosses & other assorted middle managers that still get to live off labor of the workers.

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            Haha I’d never heard that take before. I’m curious about two things. 1) How do you define MLs? 2) What would real socialism entail? I’m guessing with those answers I should have a good idea what you’re talking about.

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              1. Anyone who self-identifies as an ML, such as the part mentioned: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_the_Russian_Federation

              2. Workers being in control of the means of production, like actually not in some “the party represents the workers BS”.

              • cooperatives & unions control job sites - real unions not yellow unions
              • workers control the economy via some real mechanism not 1 party elections with per-determined outcomes (Could be state-less - e.g Anarchy, could be state-full e.g some form of democratic socialism, will probably be a mix of both)
              • the people that work farms control them and are not forced to give back the farms to capitalists like the USSR did in Spain.
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    Maybe, but I don’t think that the conditions are nearly as bad as they were in 1917. They’re obviously worse than they would have been had Russia not entered into the war, but the collapse in 1917 was due to urban food shortages. I don’t mean “luxury X is unavailable”, but that people couldn’t get staple food to survive because of demands of the war.

    https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/russias-february-revolution-was-led-women-march-180962218/

    Like the French Revolution in 1789, a bread shortage in the capital precipitated unrest. After long shifts in the factories, female factory workers stood in bread lines alongside other women including domestic servants, housewives and soldiers’ widows. In these bread lines, news and rumors about planned rationing spread. When Saint Petersburg municipal authorities announced on March 4 that rationing would begin ten days later, there was widespread panic; bakeries were sacked, their windows broken and supplies stolen.

    As he had throughout the previous months, Nicholas once again underestimated the extent of the unrest and again departed for military headquarters more than 400 miles away in Mogliev, which is now in Belarus, against the advice of his ministers. In the czar’s mind, leadership of the military took precedence during wartime, and he was concerned by the mass desertions occurring in the aftermath of munitions shortages and defeats at the hands of the Germans.

    Though in past moments of revolutionary sentiment, the military had stood by its czar, by 1917, the armed force was demoralized and sympathetic to the demonstrators’ cause. The presence of large groups of women among the demonstrators made soldiers particularly reluctant to fire on the crowds. When the soldiers joined the demonstrators, as opposed to firing upon them, the end of the Romanov dynasty was near.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/guides/ztyk87h/revision/5

    There was a severe lack of food in Moscow and, in 1917, Petrograd only received half of the grain required to feed its citizens.

    Now, okay. It’s possible that standards for political support are different, that the bar has changed. But the public in Russia of 2026 — though it may be in a worse state than Russia of 2020 due to resources consumed by the war — is also not experiencing the degree of deprivation of Russia of 1917.

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      It’s true. Looking back on revolutions, starvation is a common cause. What we haven’t seen is a relatively better off population revolt because their conditions got notably worse, from pretty good to pretty bad but not close to starvation.

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      That is definitely true, but 21st century examples of revolution don’t necessarily need a food shortage to begin (Maidan, Nepal, etc.)

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        I’m no historian but I think self-determination is up there with starvation as a common cause for revolt. But Russians wouldn’t be throwing off the shackles of a foreign empire.

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      This is consistently true of most revolutions. Once a lot of people are staring at the possibility of starvation you hit critical mass on people with nothing to lose.

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    We’re gonna see that in the US before we see it in Russia. At least Russians have free education and free healthcare mandated by their constitution.