• Rioting Pacifist@lemmy.world
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      5 hours ago

      Spain, Korea, Ukraine, the Soviets.

      Any attempt at putting the workers in charge instead of the state is met with violence.

      It’s not controlled in the sense that capitalist control them, it’s just controlled in the sense that the state requires private property & structurally state-capitalism is closer to liberal-capitalism, so you get less pushback from the cops, bureaucrats, bosses & other assorted middle managers that still get to live off labor of the workers.