• Buffalox@lemmy.world
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    7 hours ago

    That’s strange because China threatened to invade Greenland and started a war in the middle east that damage the global economy…

    Oh wait.
    That’s USA.
    Maybe there’s a reason we see USA as a bigger threat?

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      10 hours ago

      The US has enjoyed a strong alliance with Europe for decades. US and European economies are interconnected and interdependent. Europe expect the US to behave like an ally, the current Trump government does not.

      Trump is hostile to Europe, but the entire American apparatus, soft and hard power, economic influence was built on this alliance. This makes the US more dangerous, more unpredictable then Russia. That makes the US a bigger threat, because the US can cause so much more damage to Europe. The US is actively supporting the only undemocratic government in the EU that fully support Russia against Europe.

      Russia is killing European, Russia is committing war crimes every days, Russia is conquering Europe, Russia is destabilizing European democracies, Russia is spreading hate and misinformation.

      Russia is a more direct and explicit threat to Europe then the US. The US has the capacity to do much more damage because Europe is integrated and dependent on the US then it is with Russia.

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      Putin’s an evil asshole. But he’s not a dumb evil asshole. I’d put Russia slightly over the US. I see them as a threat, but at least it’s a threat with which you may be able to reason.

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    This could be true. Trump is threatening to take Greenland. In contrast, China unlike Russia is not threatening Europe.

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        Americans regularly make the mistake of assuming that other countries will behave like America, even when the evidence points the other way.

        If China actually wanted to invade Taiwan it’s hard to imagine a better time to do it than right now. The US has used up almost all it’s supply of Patriot interceptors and JASSM long range cruise missiles. We used up all our most effective ammunition attempting to bully Iran and even pulled ordinance out of the Pacific theater to do so.
        On top of that the global economy is on shaky ground. This would be the most difficult time to try to put together a coalition to sanction China. It doesn’t help that they control many of the precursor resources that we need for our advanced weapons systems.

        On the other hand, they’ve demonstrated that their geography gives them an option vis a vis Taiwan that the US does not have with Iran, they can force capitulation without a ground invasion. Taiwan is so close to mainland China that they can completely blockade the island. They’ve done it several times and gotten away with it just fine. They do this ever time anyone gets near their “red lines”; that’s basically any formal declaration of independence.

        So the evidence points us to two obvious conclusions:

        • China will not invade Taiwan unilaterally.
        • If China does decide to use force, they’ll do so with a blockade.
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          They will get Taiwan though talks. They won’t invade because the US says it will bomb TMSC factory is China tries. It’s not worth the risk for China to try to invade. But they will get it though talks soon.

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            China definitely considers the downsides of all the options in front of them.

            When it comes to Taiwan, US intervention of any sort is now likely much lower on their list. They’ve been dumping funds into SMIC. Although they’re not on par with TSMC yet, they’re catching up fast. On top of that, the US would have a much harder time blowing up their factories (plural). They’ve used up most of the munitions that they could use to do it with and there’s no safe way to get a ship into firing range of Taiwan.

            The biggest incentive is cost. Why fight over something that (as you pointed out) they can get through talks? It may take longer but it’s much cheaper that way.

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    China’s not perfect and they do a lot of shit. But at least they are not ruled by a spoiled octogenarian brat that throws hissy fits on its free time during its workdays consisting on market rigging to earn more money and raping kids.

    So yeah, of course we see that shithole as a more dangerous threat. At least you can talk with China.

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    We Europeans don’t see you as a threat, this only applies to the orange criminal and his magats. Your current events in the states are the daily topic in the workplace here, especially the difficult survival of the ordinary citizen

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      Unless you are from Poland, that is blatantly false, see the chart. Europeans CLEARLY see USA as a danger and for good reason.
      For some countries the “close ally” segment is in 1 digit percentage!!!

      USA is absolutely a threat, they have threatened to invade Greenland, which caused several NATO allies to send troops to defend an American invasion.
      And they currently wage an unprovoked illegal war against Iran, that threaten the economy of the entire globe including Europe.

      No it’s not just the Orange turd, He is just a symptom, he was elected by a majority vote, and no checks and balances has been effective in removing the madman. USA is a rogue state and is absolutely dangerous for the entire world.

      USA is not just a potential danger to Europe, they are a current active danger. There can be no ifs or buts about it, it has already happened that they have acted very clearly dangerously towards Europe.

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      I think its more of a. At least china does not seem to want to intentionally fuck itself so there is limits to its danger.

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    What is that AI slop of a headline? Does no one proofread anything anymore?

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      That’s a particular register known as headlinese, and has been used pretty much since the start of newspaper publication.