• Phoenixz@lemmy.ca
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    It’s not that hard

    Wealth caps. Worldwide. Start at something reasonable, say 10 million

    Anything over that goes 100% tot axes. Nobody has a “right” to more than that, nobody needs more than that. No, you don’t NEED three Lamborghini’s, you don’t need 20 houses.

    Keep everything else the same, just a single rule to make a huge difference

    Governments now will have enough income to fund a huge social net with free education, free healthcare, universal income so that people can spend money to keep the economy running

    People now can choose to do some of the little work left.

    On a side note: fuck these AI clowns for focussing on AI on exactly those tasks that make life worth living instead of focussing on the mundane shit tasks that nobody wants to do. Garbage collection still requires humans yet these shit stains claim that art andusic is now covered. Yay! Now we have shitty AI art and shitty jobs!

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      Agreed. The promise of AI when I was younger (80s 90s) was it would do all the jobs no one wanted and we as humans could focus on arts, entertainment, and leisure. Somehow along the way those got crossed.

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    First, we need high tax rates, and freedom dividends. This allows entire society to benefit from productivity increases.

    Work being more entrepreneurial and sales/financing focused, lets people (who are supported by UBI/freedom dividends) invest their time in designing products and services that can rent robots/computers/AI to deliver profitable value to consumers, who because of UBI/freedom dividends can afford said value.

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    Politically the system of work in return for pay will have to change. Maybe a small amount of people may still work but most will probably get basic universal income. Thats the only politically feasible outcome

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    This is pretty much what the empires in the world war era were asking. They found the answer and it was poor, developing countries.

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    Rich people mostly. But you can save your camp currency/scrip for a few years and buy some approved shoes or whatever at the work camp store.

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    Marx figured that out centuries ago. Communism is the only solution to automatisation. Capitalism is an inferior, unstable system.

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        Amazing that you get down voted for pointing out facts. Tankies sure are a thing and I can already hear them writing a furious reply to this post

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        There’s a substantial difference between living a bourgeois lifestyle and being fed that I think you’re discounting.

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          In many instances communism couldn’t even feed their own citizens. In case of USSR puppet states even most basic products were rationed, like bread, shugar or chocolate. If you needed a washing machine, you couldn’t just go and buy one with your money, you had to hunt for one like for GPU during crypto boom. in 2021 And if you wanted a computer, like ZX Spectrum, or Commodore, you could only get it for these filthy capitalist dollars.

          And you know how much people earned in dollar terms? like $50 monthly.

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            I am not well read on the subject, so forgive me, but how much of those USSR puppet issues were caused by Communism itself, and not by misguided Stalinist agricultural / industrial policy?

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              The core of these misguided policies was control of means of production in form of centrally planned economy. It just didn’t work.

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            depends if you count those wermachts soldiers like the victim of communism memorial lmao

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              Okay you’re just a dumb tankie.

              Read about Holdomor. Read about starvation under Mao in the 60s. Or in North Korea in the 90s. You should also look into Russian gulag slave camps. And into avg quality of life of Ussr VS western cityzens.

              TLDR you bought into communist cult.

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                You are not attacking communism, you are talking against totalitarian regimes. People were starving in the great depression too. People today work two jobs just to stay alive, i feel you are not one of them.

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                Call me dumb again and I’ll find you and slit your throat you absolute piece of shit. I’ll rip your fucking eyes off and make you swallow them before feeding your entire body to your whore of mum before bombing her with white phosphorus lmao

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    We kinda have two choices:

    Some flavour of socialism where people get what they need for free

    Or

    Turbo-rio-de-janiro style inequality where we all live in slums

    Now the 2nd one is what the ultra rich want and they have a lot of power, so it’s kinda on the rest of us to make the first happen instead

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        It’s an uphill battle, but it’s better to start early than late.

        Unlike before, the rich now have private armies, lobbying groups, and mass surveillance networks while we peasants own nothing. Plus, the pot is slowly boiled.

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          The rich have always had private armies and spy networks. The technology may have changed, but same old same old.

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            I disagree. My opinion is that the technology did change. It just became more efficient at doing its job (killing people, surveillance, and mass propaganda).

            The internet was supposed to be a gateway of information, but now it’s the largest propaganda network. Free speech is censored by closed source algorithms and the entire internet infrastructure is controlled and owned by the 1%.

            We are more isolated compared to before, class solidarity is almost nonexistent, and its easier to identify people now vs before due to being interconnected real time.

            I can go more on and on but the tldr is that technology has made it easier and faster to crush dissent

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          Data centers are made by companies and companies have board of directors who have heads. CEOs have heads.

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          If Louis so-and-so hadn’t had a head my ancestors would have blown him to bits, that’s also an option for datacenters, just look at Iran !

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      “maybe the clothes are made of paper. The food is just nutrient paste…”

      Or something like that from the Expanse. Sure, your needs are met, but living life on basic assistance seems like a nightmare.

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        Another fiction to look at could be Star Trek. Pretty much everything materialistic is free. You study and work not to afford your materialistic needs and wants, but for the joy of doing it.

        And people do build careers and business, for the joy and the achievement of it.

        … just to contrast your idea of badic income meaning barely surviving.