…Washington and Israel accuse [Popular Mobilization Forces] of being proxies for Iran. The site attacked on Wednesday houses barracks for regular soldiers, but it is a base shared with PMF units…
“Until now, they hadn’t attacked Iraqi soldiers…”
The ruling Shia coalition government finds it difficult to disarm the militias, as requested by U.S. President Donald Trump, especially in the context of a regional war where taking sides against Iran would mean aligning with the “Zionist enemy” [referring to Israel].
…“The U.S. A-10 is using bases in Jordan; Arab countries are already joining the war,”…
After decades of joint training exercises between U.S. Marines and Iraqi soldiers, including with the PMF fighters who battled ISIS, resentment toward the U.S. is growing. “We’ve been allies for so long, but the only one they provide air cover for is Israel,”…
because it makes you feel safer. you do feel safer don’t you? do we need to make you more safer?! DO WE!
My guess is that Trump is going to piss off as many countries in the middle east as he can until they launch an attack on the US.
Then he can invoke the NATO treaty to drag Europe into their pointless war. If they refuse, he’d use it as an argument to pull the US out of NATO.
Either way he’s going to harass Muslims in the US because of it.
Article 5 doesn’t apply if you started it.
If the US invokes it, allies will not follow, and NATO is finally dead.Much to Putin’s joy.
The only time Article 5 was ever invoked was to support the US, not the other way around.
And they called for support against Afghanistan, after an attack carried out, planned and financed by a small group of Egyptians, Pakistanis and Saudis.It was always bullshit, and the sooner Europe accepts that it won’t protect them, the better.
“We didn’t start a war, we started a special operation”
“Oh OK then. By the way, Article 5 doesn’t mandate a military response, only “support through any action the allies deem necessary”. Against this mighty foe, our pathetic European military can’t do anything. You need help from a higher power, so we’ll send some thoughts and prayers your way.”
Of fucking course we’re just bombing Iraq now too.
It really needs to be a punishable offense to attack a country without congressional approval, treaty mandate, or proof of immediate threat
How fucking stupid can the people in charge of the US military be? They’re already losing the fucking pointless war with Iran, and now they gotta go and give Iraq (heretofore a US ally) a reason to side with Iran‽‽‽
Golly…
Is Jordan fully a vasal state or have they not seen the map of “Greater Isreal”?
Coz they can
So I’m a bit confused since I’m not familiar with many of the factions involved…
The US attacked bases, not on the Iraq-Iran border, but in central Iraq. There’s been no Iranian ground troop movement in other countries yet that I’m aware of, so whom exactly was the US supposed to be attacking?
This is an Iraqi militia, the Popular Mobilization Forces, which formed during and were instrumental in the war against ISIS. Basically they stepped up where the Iraqi military failed, and helped push ISIS out of Iraq. They’re formally and legally a part of the Iraqi military, but are also de facto independent and closely linked to Iran.
After looking them up, the PMF is aligned with Iraq, though not their official military, and they were allies to the US fighting the Islamic State, but since they are funded by the Iranian gov and are mainly Shia, even though they have been good allies to America in the past, they’re now being attacked unless the Iraqi gov disarms them.
While being funded by, and formerly sworn loyal to Iran, it sounds like Iraq legitimized them in 2016 into a still mainly independent, but now non-politically aligned force under supervision of the Iraqi supreme military leader. This is why they have been doing things such as guarding the US embassy in Baghdad as mentioned in the article.
Despite seemingly following the rules and agreements with them, they’re still “too-Iranian” for the US leadership and this was a series of “warnings” to give up their weapons to the official Iraqi military? That seems to make this whole story make sense, at least in line with how the US government seems to operate these days. Have I got the gist of it now? Thank you for your help.
Fucking hell, Iran and Iraq were working together and not even really against anyone we dislike and we got mad at that too…
Why can’t we just treat the middle east better‽ Things would likely improve for their citizens if we treated them well. And they wouldn’t hate us if we didn’t keep fucking killing them, especially if we did shit like helping.
I don’t know much at all about the Middle East, but it seems as though they’ve contributed a lot to the modern world for a very long time, and I don’t get why anyone would treat them as lesser people. All the religions and various groups of different people living there have all seemed to be treated very poorly for one reason or another, despite them often being the allies of Europe or the Americas. Governments just can’t seem to stop meddling.
It’s weird to me as well. A base understanding of their history shows that while they’ve been having a really bad time since the fall of the Ottoman Empire, for most of history they’ve been one of the major cultural, financial, and generally civilizational hubs of the Eastern Hemisphere. Discounting them is like discounting China or India.
A common claim is that they’ve been at war with each other for thousands of years. This is really funny coming from Europeans and their descendants, considering we were the savage backwater hell bent on killing the shit out of every neighbor we saw and also them for the entire middle ages, meanwhile they spent the period with some armed conflict against each other, but far more focused on peaceful trading.
It doesn’t feel like much effort is made to help us understand them. All their accomplishments in science, math, and medicine barely get mentioned at least when I was in school. We got Mesopotamia, and that was about it. I don’t think we even covered what actual countries this is today.
As you said, the only real news I ever hear about is of conflicts, not the reasons for them, just that they’re going on. Europe and America have screwed around with them ever since oil was found, so no wonder why there is so much instability.
Basically yes, you’ve got the gist of it. Might be a bit more complicated, as I think some of the PMF militias attacked US forces right from the start of the war, but they have every right to fight an occupying army.
AFAIK the PMFs made a ceasefire deal with US forces in one of the bases to allow them to withdraw from a base and the US airstriked the guy who negotiated with them as soon as they pulled out. The good news is nobody will fall for that one again, and the US only has one base left in Iraq.
Appreciate you getting me caught up. Sounds like every bridge will continue to be burned behind this administration. 😖
Well as the other poster said, it was the PMF that started attacking US bases
The shia PMF were very happy with the US military when they helped them push out sunni ISIS though ;)
No problem! Yes, in short he’s opened pandora’s box and anything is now possible
“Why did the Americans attack us?”
I’ll refer you to the image of Peter Griffin next to a color coded piece of paper.
“They looked muslim”
It’s as if the SecDef doesn’t even realize Iraq has been a US ally for over a decade…
More likely “Oh my god we are going to defend our spoiled little israel and make so much money with the oil we are going to steal in the way, this is going to be awesome” and then “oh fuck, they are fighting back, we are used to bully small kids, but we did’nt know they could fight back”.
“What, they have drones? Why didn’t anyone tell us Iran has drones?!?”
America attacked you because America is too damn proud and stupid to hold politicians and billionaires accountable for their actions
How do I go about holding them accountable?
Join a leftist party. Buy guns. Invade the capitol with your comrads.
Think of it as a 6th of january in reverse
Step 1; find a whole lot of other people who want to do the same thing.
You as an individual can’t, I’m blaming the country as a system, the legal system failed
I only say one word: Luigi
War crime moment + leopards eating faces moment + death to America.
I could have sword Iran and Iraq were the same place?
/s
Sand, brown people, oil… What’s the difference between friends?
give me my noble price, finland!!!
And my axe.
