Get ready for an Israeli false flag operation
We have already travelled so far past the Nyquist Limit on that, the official signal is almost all Israeli-US Non-Harmonic Distortion. Barrages of aliasing travel up and down the frequencies of communication with no apparent harmonic relationships being expressed.
The meaning of “false flag” loses relevance when the true flags are just as false.
They want to fly over Syria and Iraq?
I would assume their legal theory is “Just fucking try to stop us”
Are there a lot of fishermen out there for Hegseth to soften his murder boner on?
Do we really need to bomb Iran again?
Can’t we just… not?
Israel is a settler colonialist state using pseudoscience and “Zionism” which is just the same repackaged ideology that justified the extermination of the indigenous population in the United States. Israel is a settler colonialist project that’s main objective is the systematic extermination and land absorption of the Middle East. It’s Manifest Destiny all over again
If you have a better way for Israel to forestall elections and reckoning for their failure to keep their ghetto under control we would love to hear it. Because using the epstein blackmail to force the US into starting our new forever war, Persian Gulf War III, is what we are working with here.
And there will be no shortage of pretexts to reopen hostilities no matter of peace agreements afterwards, hence the forever part. We had to cross over to hit a militant group, terror group, whatever. Every time Israel’s leaders’ approval ratings are down or they are facing a vote they can pretext up another round of Iran war.
The beauty of it, for them, is that Iran is nearly powerless to respond. They’ve a non existant airforce, rudimentary missiles and air defense, and are fundamentally compromised in their communications on a base level allowing near total visibility in what they are doing. Satelites, drones, the air forces, it’s fun killing people that can’t fight back! /s
If we want to see this stop, we need a revolution. We need to build a worker-led anti-imperialist movement.
Yeah… i’ve seen how that works. Workers are incredibly corrupt, like most people.
We need something that delivers transparency with intelligence and a huge amount of social empathy as it’s core. Can’t work in this world. Globalism is here but fragmented feifdoms of horror remain all over, even in the wealthiest and best educated areas. To prop up one nation on the grounds of social empathy at the cost of others invites the same kind of problem we’re in today, and there’s simply not enough to go around with 8 billion people.
I don’t have a solution to fix the world’s problems, if I did I would use it. Instead all I can do is push for some kind of regulatory action. Again, consequences for shareholders. There should be the biggest penalty for unethical, immoral and illegal actions taken against humanity by the people who have a stake in the business. Leadership comes from the top, and if they are unable to avoid horrors, perhaps they shouldn’t have the assets that allow them to lead.
thats just defeatist drivel.
organize with your fellow workers instead of making excuses to let your country kill us.
Anarchism is the solution. We have enough resources and land for everyone to have a fantastic quality of life. We just need to stop allowing people to rule over us. Make everyone equal and corruption is no longer possible.
trump can’t reply as he’s deep throating netanyahu
Surely Netanyahu has kompromat on him too right?
Epstein was working for Israel. They’ve got it all.
Do we think that’s where Russia got it, or they have their own.
while getting banged from behind by putin.
Bubba.
Nah Putin is watching from the cuck chair
Hey, what you don’t trust me?
We’re still looking for the WMDs.
We do have the receipts so we know they did have them, Iraq.
Of course we also knew he used them all on his own people if not the Iranians, as we supported him in the Iraq/Iran war, one of the bloodiest wars in history, I think over a million deaths from it. Hussein was fond of human wave attacks on machine gun nests and fortified lines.
I’d love to see the end of the Ayatollahs myself.
Supporting Israel and the US attacking them cements them in power as they rally around the flag. And even if he did get overthrown, nothing better would result. More likely is they kill him in an airstrike, and nothing better will result. Anyone supporting this war is a fool and a traitor to the common good. Ignorance is no excuse.
Many people do, but there are legitimate concerns about
- if an invasion could even actually achieve this,
- the humanitarian cost of it (aka A LOT of innocent people dying or losing everything),
- the long term effects of destabilizing a whole region and
- the damage to the rules based global order caused by yet another war of aggression from a side that is supposed to support and not undermine that order.
Yeah well peace doesn’t make itself you know.
Peace can’t exist without war, don’t you know? … wait a second …
We didn’t name it the Department of War to defend ourselves.
Theoretically… what would happen if Iran or someone else happens to magically sink this thing, fighter jets and all?
Like with a dragon?
Israel is going to attack it and say it was Iran and then they will have an excuse to attack Iran for the interest of Israel
Magically? Hypersonic missiles kind of feel like magic, but thet are very real.
The US would freak out and escalate the war. But they are going to do that anyway sooner or later, this is a forever war, Israel needs it for their domestic agenda, and the US party, the one fixing elections to stay in power, is all in.
But regardless if they did sink it the administration would try and treat it like Pearl Harbor and use it to escalate tensions more than they have support to do already.
Public opinion is the only thing holding them back now, and they aren’t entirely certain how much they need public opinion still given the elections aren’t reliably fixed yet, at least not back to back fixed. We can still stop them here, but the window to do so is closing.
More pollution in the Mediterranean :(
Without reading an article, but I will assume you mean a magical macguffin weapon just…sinks it and no one knows what happened. The response depends on a few things.
Without its strike group
Threat assessment will show its defenses were overwelmed by the macguffin weapon. Maybe even conventional missiles - these things aren’t invincible.
With Strike Group
The normal Carrier travels with 12-15 destroyers and other auxiliary vessels to provide screening and defense overlapping. If the carrier is struck and damaged/sunk in the center or back of this strike group, without loss of other vessels, an immediate retreat and Threat assessment will be done to see how the macguffin weapon got past everything else. This would be the concern - again Carriers aren’t invincible, but how your macguffin got past so much radar would be important and the MAIN focus, if the macguffin did not do it in an immediately obvious way.
Strike Group disabled/sunk
If the entire strike group is damaged/sunk, the entire fleet will pull back to begin assessing risk of the macguffin. Damaging a fair number of ships run by the United States in a short order should be beyond poor nations capabilities, so the macguffiin weapon would necessitate reevaluation. Delay of at least a week to assess where/what the macguffin weapon is, (Assuming its a singular object) and then if the target, say Iran, is able to be struck within a specific loss ratio of troops.
A macguffin weapon like a Deathstar type where it can fire at single target position would give most Threat analysis away and the immediate questions to answer would be 1. How much energy/fuel/ammunition does it cost to fire. (If a broke country can afford a mega laser - how don’t I have one?) 2. How does it target (radar can be blocked, is it manually aimed as direct fire/ parabolic like artillery) 3. How can it be avoided (like blocking radar to aim, or like can a physical obstruction block the firing angle. 4. Can it be destroyed (is it susceptible to a strike team on land to sabotage?) 5 Is there more than one.
Btw, what if a sunk nuke just dives up and goes off?
I wrote my comment in the assumption that there is no immediately obvious cause of damage.
The assumption a carrier- with more bulkheads/damage control teams/position at the heart of a formation suddenly taking critical damage and/or sinking without any warning of incoming enemy planes/missiles would generate the exact amount of panic it sounds like it should. I suppose I kind of missed that in the original comment.
A nuclear device detonating underneath would generate a great amount of concern from the international community, especially if Iran immediately says “yo that wasn’t us”
Or someone can pull a Ukraine and manually aim and fire missiles from land.
My brother/sister/sibling in the 'tism came out strong, with several scenarios even.
Here, have some stimuli.
If it looks like something that could happen again, rather than a one-off fluke, USA would have to change their whole naval doctrine. The strategic arms balance of all countries would need to be reassessed.
Could be used as another USS Liberty, though I’d assume they would go for a cheaper carrier, and it looks like Israel is getting all the support from USA it needs.
I don’t want to see people die, but the US needs to suffer a wound like this.
Because that worked out so well the last time…
The last time they needed desperately to bring the public support for a war around bcs the ppl were very much against a war (with financial/imperial goals).
Ohhh … yeah, I see, poor ship.
Monkey paw finger curls
Hiroshima, August 6th, 1945
You got downvoted, but with the current administration? A WMD response might be chosen. So it might lead to nuclear war… and a chain effect.
Then, suddenly…
“I don’t want to set the world on fire~” 🥲
Keep in mind Trump was playing with the idea of nuking a fucking hurricane. Doesn’t seem so far fetched.
Kind of off topic, but I’ve seen the the Ford carrier in Virginia before and it is HUGE. It’s crazy how big this ship is. It’s like the Empire State Building tilted sideways. When you see it irl, it really puts in perspective just how powerful one ship can get.
Target practice, without it’s fleet defending it.
