So now we can add “directly capturing a sovereign leader” to the list of crap the US has done. So what do you think will actually be “the straw that broke the camels back” for world leaders to actually do something? Think it’ll be significant or something mundane?

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    Don’t forget that we’ve done much worse. Obama straight up assassinated Bin Laden in a foreign country.

    But I mean honestly, we’d have to lose a significant amount of military power and if any substantial alliance ever formed against us, we’re looking at mutually assured destruction.

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    Russia invaded Ukraine and was immediately under many sanctions. I don’t get why the world doesn’t treat the US the same way. Aside from greed.

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    It’ll take the politicians in other countries being willing to say no to bribes from US corporations.

    Because the actions that need to be taken involve sanctions on the US and seizing the assets (including patents and trademarks) of US-owned corporations. And refusing to act as a tax haven for them anymore.

    But that would benefit everyone while lessening the ability of politicians to enrich themselves with money from oil stolen from Venezuela and money exploited from US citizens. Let’s see how noble your politicians are. We know ours are shit.

    Or maybe the AI bubble will pop and remove the incentive to kowtow to the interests of American corporations.

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    To stop this immediate idiocy, Trump has to have a massive stroke, just enough to debilitate him but necessarily replace him. MAGA isn’t going to blindly follow Vance cause he’s got zero MAGA charisma. The GOP controlled Congress is going to be stuck between implementing 25A or not, cause if they remove Trump they’re committing political suicide.

    So the best bet is for a lame duck government as a whole.

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    WW3, that’s literally it. The rest of the world has done jack and shit about Russia and Ukraine beside sanctions and providing resources. People like to meme about Canada being badass, but they have such a small military presence that NATO has been upset with them for about 5 years for not doing their part. Outside of that there is no one in North or South America that can stand up to the US.

    Africa isn’t doing much militarily. No one close to China is going to drop their guard to go after the US (Australia included since they have China breathing down their necks as well). That leaves Europe and the Middle East. The Middle East probably isn’t going to do much and if the US takes Venezuela’s oil then they need the Middle East even less.

    Europe will probably spin wheels and denounce actions, but the important members of Europe are either 1.) part of NATO 2.) not prepared to defend themselves from Russia if they leave NATO. They can’t meaningfully sanction a military ally without breaking that alliance and once that alliance is officially broken NATO doesn’t have the US backing against Russia and also faces even more risk of Greenland or Canada being attacked by the US.

    Best bet for stopping the US is Brazil, Russia, or China saying they will intervene for Venezuela, the EU and other NATO nations saying they won’t support the US, and then BRICS all jump in to fight the US. Maybe this weakens the US and BRICS effectively passes NATO but now Europe is sitting in the crosshairs for Russia.

    Honestly, trying to go against the US is more likely to cause the Republican leaders to dislike European or international opinions even more. Republican’s have been complaining at home for 20 years about freeloading foreigners who spend their military budgets on lefty progressive ideas, foreigners complaining about US domestic policies, and all the while the US polices the world for them. It’s this sort of foreign attitude mixed with Russian and Chinese propaganda which has caused the US to drift further and further away from a positive relationship with Europe. Trying to go against the US is more likely to cause a Nazi & Stalin dividing up Poland situation rather than hurting the US.

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    STOP REPRODUCING

    There’s a reason that leadershit is absolutely pissing their pants about declining fertility rates.

    The funny thing is that they’ll try to shame us, bribe us, or even force us (e.g. via attacks on abortion rights and contraceptives). But they refuse to meaningfully address the underlying reasons why people are increasingly saying “no thanks, I’m good” regarding becoming parents.

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    Nuclear disarmament. Hasanabi Doctrine.

    Arm the nations you want to be able to defend themselves, and disarm the ones you don’t.

    The US will fall as soon as its nukes are removed or destroyed. Hopefully peacefully.

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    WW3 fought in mainland USA…

    The usa has only ever benefitted from war… once they taste it at home and have cities to rebuild, they may drop the deadly combination of chicken hawk and apathy that seems to be their take on war

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    I think losing an aircraft carrier would give the US serious pause. Outside that, no idea. Maybe we finally pull the trigger and nuke someone, and that scares the rest of the world enough to start actively sanctioning us. Maybe not, though.

    It does seem like most of Europe, Canada, and East Asia are happy to be in the pocket of US financial interests. Even folks who don’t like Trump haven’t bothered to break away from JP Morgan or Goldman Sachs.

    Nobody wants to risk fucking with the money of the global hegemon. And so long as the US is the wealthiest nation on Earth, what’s going to deter them?

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    It’s a slow, ongoing process. The more the US tries to use force to make countries fall in line, the more people look to alternatives. Countries that used to be unaligned are looking at China and countries that used to be aligned with the US are looking at playing the field.

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    The US has directly captured or supported the overthrow of multiple heads of state. Nobody has ever done anything and they won’t now.

    Too many Americans are actually supportive of this so there won’t be any major domestic repercussions. Maybe some hearings in Congress.

    America is not going to fix itself. The corruption is built in. For the last 50 years (roughly), the system has been changed to make the people dumb and complacent; to make the President a puppet king who answers to the wealthy.