• Pajonk@szmer.info
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    5 hours ago

    Truth is simple.

    For people in Europe (especially middle/east) russian imperialism is the same thing, as american imperialism to a middle east and countries in the North and South America.

    We can all hate russian and USA imperialism, hate the mainstream media, but please don’t use other imperial contry as a alternative :)

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      24 minutes ago

      One has military bases on every inhabited land mass on earth, the other does not, your local concerns do not make them even remotely comparable

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        Just because russia is a failing economy, and no longer has bases all over the world, that does not mean that it’s no longer imperialist country.

        Authoritarian pseudo communism ruined soviet union, an then thanks to Jelcyn, neoliberalizm killed what was left.

    • 🏴حمید پیام عباسی🏴@crazypeople.onlineOP
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      1 hour ago

      How does this follow this meme at all? Whenever I or others post anything opposed to US imperialism, a country that in this century is responsible for killing over a million of my Iraqi brothers and sisters, we’re accused of being Russian. At what point are we using Russia as an alternative?

    • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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      1 hour ago

      Russia is not imperializing Europe, Europe itself is imperialist, and western Europe is especially guilty of imperializing both eastern Europe and the global south.

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        27 minutes ago

        Of course that’s not true. Russia openly saying, that it wants to rebuild soviet era imperium.

        Where Europe is imperializing? Europe independent countries just started EU, economic and politics alliance, just like BRICS. EU is not responsible for the wars (Russia is, i.e. Ukraine, Georgia, Chechen war…).

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          21 minutes ago

          Neither the Russian Federation nor USSR are examples of imperialism. Neither is dominated by financial capital, nor do either expropriate vast sums of wealth from the global south through unequal exchange and export of capital. Europe does, though, and this is why they are imperialist while BRICS is not. NATO is also responsible for many of those wars, such as the Russo-Ukrainian war, by installing far-right Banderites that began ethnically cleansing Russians in eastern Ukraine, resulting in Donetsk and Luhansk seceding and requesting Russian assistance.

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            Of course, that Soviet Union and Russia are imperialistc states.

            We can take a look on that topic.

            Authoritarian militaristic regime controlling the state? Check. In the soviet union and Russia, there is only one central power, there is no freedom or real democracy. If someone wants to change it, state will use all the power and military to stop it (like in Belarus - victim of a russian imperialism, or in Czechoslovakia in 1968, and so on).

            Territorial expansion - Soviet union - of course, i.e. Ribbentrop Molotov pact, or the fact that Russia started the war in the Ukraine, attacking independent country to gain more power and rebuild soviet imperium.

            Economic exploitation - i.e. Holodomor. Or how soviet union exploited other east block countries.

            Superiority ideology - you can see it on many propaganda posts, in the soviet times it was way better, bot nowadays russia also trying to convince people, that Russia is not a right wing authoritarian regime. In the same time Russia is attacking sexual minorities, and the west.

            Is this enough?

            Brics is as much imperialistic as NATO.

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    8 hours ago

    Who are these “lemmy libs”? What are these opinions that seem to incense them? I haven’t seen any posts that would fit this meme’s description and it feels like I’m losing my mind.

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    They always assume you’re American and then you see their brain short circuiting when they find out you’re not. It’s as if other countries only exist as this abstract notion and only America is real. They tend to think of us as this monolithic abstraction as everyone in a Muslim country, for example, shares some inherent trait instead of a place with its own contradictions and its own complexities that cannot be reduced to their dumb generalities.

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    19 hours ago

    Maybe I haven’t run into it too often or I’ve been ignornant of it, but what are some of those opinions that you’re referring to?

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      12 hours ago

      Mods aggressively delete them so you wouldn’t. Moderation is out of control because it’s essentially robbing us of seeing diversity of opinions.

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        11 hours ago

        It should still show those actions in the mod logs. Can you link some. But seriously, post them here, Let’s see if they get deleted. At least they’ll show up in my inbox that way.

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            Click the 3 dots and go “XYZ moderation history” for individuals, the comment mod history to see removed comments, and the mod log at the bottom of the page for the full instance mod log.

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    23 hours ago

    I get called either Russian or Chinese propaganda bot sometimes (because there are that many MONOTHEISTS in any of these countries…) and I’m pretty far ethnically from both, lol.

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    21 hours ago

    I mean when the post is shit like “haha your government is as bad as ours therefore you are unserious, and ours is good actually” when most of us have oligarchical or theological dictatorships yeah, shit feels like a bot.

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    22 hours ago

    It’s always amusing when someone makes a statement like this inside their echo chamber.

    Like what do you expect?

    Are you going to change people’s minds who already think the way you do?

    Enjoy your upvotes.