• Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca
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    Russia is going down in history as the only country to lose a naval war against a country with no navy.

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    21 hours ago

    I’m no naval expert, but in 2025, a $400 million dollar sub sounds like something ordered from Wish.

    Real OceanGate vibes.

    • BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today
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      War is a great driver of technological innovation.

      The airplane was first flown in 1903. When WWI broke out, airplanes were nothing more than fruit crates with wings, with a canvas covering and the equivalent of a lawnmower engine. They could literally tear themselves apart doing acrobatic flying. The first time they tried to mount a machine gun in front of the pilot, he shot up the propeller.

      By the end of the war, only a few years later, they had aluminum frames, turbocharged engines, and machine guns that were synced to the crankshaft, and fired between the propellers. They could handle the twists and turns of the most acrobatic dogfight. Without the war, it’s doubtful that the aviation industry would have been as motivated to advance so quickly.

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        Very true. And the more I learn about post-War plane development the more I see that a lack of field experience meant stupid designs and terrible planes

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      Spending those trillions was the point, that it bought the world’s most powerful military was a bonus.

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        The main goals of a live wargame like this are to 1) learn lessons, and to 2) get everyone simulated combat experience. This means you need to run as many scenarios as possible and to make sure every unit gets to participate.

        If Red team sinks all the landing ships on round one, does that mean your infantry doesn’t get to war game and learn lessons (after all, the infantry are all ‘in lifeboats’)? Fuck no. You take extensive notes on what red team did, restart the war game, but this time mandate the infantry land. It would be a colossal waste to not learn lessons in your infantry unit or to not allow them to accumulate simulated combat experience simply because their boats sank in the first round.

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        That will always be funny. "Stop! We shouldn’t learn and adapt. We just want to show off with a live fire parade!

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    Ahh admiral, this is a very nice submarine you’ve got here. Very… pretty. It would be a shame if something were to… happen to it.

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    Why did it never occur to me that drones should go underwater? This is brilliant!

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      It’s more difficult as you need to be able to communicate with it and water blocks a lot of radio frequencies pretty well.

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        you need to be able to communicate

        Not necessarily. Piloting the weapon into position with internal navigation, then having the thing recognize and engage targets autonomously is becoming common with drones.

        Also, you can just trail a very long wire behind the thing to communicate with home base. This is how torpedoes have worked going back to the Cold War.

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          True and there have been numerous advances in and deployment of drones with anti jamming basically dragging 5-20miles worth of fiber cable behind them. makes the landscape look like a giant spiderweb though so that’s neat.

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        21 hours ago

        Just like air drones in Ukraine carrying kilometres of fibre optic cable, sea drones may do the same

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        I thought you were talking about Minecraft for a second there when I read “water blocks”

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    This might be a warning against Russia from using their submarines again Ukrainian shipping in retaliation to Ukraine’s strikes on shadow fleet vessels.

    So far they’ve used an Iskander but that’s probably uneconomical. Now it might be even scarier for a Russian sub to sail around in the Black Sea, of which I think only 3 can be operational.