Plenty of New Yorkers who voted for Zohran Mamdani in last month’s City Hall election previously backed Donald Trump at the ballot box, despite their obvious political differences, new data reveals
I’m still of the belief that 2024, Biden beats Trump.
I don’t think so. In each case, there was significant dissatisfaction with the losing candidate prior to the election.
In 2016, it was because people saw the DNC as having subverted the democratic process to give the nomination to Clinton when Sanders might have won in a fair race.
In 2020, pick any of Trump’s many faults, or the various impacts of the pandemic. He was terribly unpopular and would have lost to any mainstream candidate.
In 2024, it was mostly economic concerns, for which many blamed Biden. Harris positioned herself as a continuation of Biden when Biden was terribly unpopular.
Random tangent but I rewatched Dr. Strangelove today and was struck by how much General Turgidson sounds exactly like liberals on here.
It is necessary now to make a choice, to choose between two, admittedly regrettable, but nevertheless distinguishable postwar environments: one, where you got 20 million people killed, and another, where you got 150 million people killed!
You’re talking about mass murder, General, not war… I will not go down in history as the greatest mass murderer since Adolf Hitler.
Perhaps it might be better, Mr. President, if you were more concerned with the American people, than with your image in the history books!
It’s the exact same lesser-evilist logic combined with the exact same condescension towards anyone who’s not a psychopath.
Even if you want to go full on, “Actually, Turgidson was right,” you still can’t make it your platform and expect it to be popular.
God, if only Stephen Colbert would still be hosting the Late Show in 2028. Imagine the Don Jr impressions!
A lot of people wonder what George Carlin’s material today would be about. I already know what it would be about. Just listen to his old material, and have AI insert the name Trump into his old material about the republicans draining the country for personal gain. See, the thing is, his material isn’t timeless. It’s just that we as a society haven’t fixed our shit, or fixed the core problems that gave him material. If anything we’ve amplified the problems. So if Carlin was complaining back then, I assume his modern day stance would be to take a pistol to the mouth. I can’t imagine complaining about problems you can’t fix, for 30+ years, and keep living to watch it get progressively worse over time.
Kamala brought on a lot of the exact same staffers who helped Hillary lose and ran a similar and bad campaign. Female democratic senators won in three of the swing states that Kamala lost.
But it isn’t really about the facts, at a certain point. It’s just a symbolic belief that allows people to absolve Kamala and the democrats of all fault. People love to punch down at voters instead of punching up and demanding better candidates, even though that’s a complete inversion of how democracy is meant to work. This inability to self-criticize and change things that don’t work is, ironically, another reason that the democrats perform poorly.
It’s more some Trump voters only voted for Trump because he was seen as anti-establishment. So Mamdani being seen as anti-establishment=those type of Trump voters voting for him.
I see how you would think that. But, I think you’re delusional about 2024. If Biden didn’t decide to run again and there was a real primary, the democrats would have had a real chance. The problem was that both Hillary and Kamala were basically appointed as the candidates by the party.
One in 10 left a cult, study finds.
I still think lots of the “trump voters” were actually “man voters”.
Trump beat Hillary. A woman.
Trump lost to Biden. A man.
Trump beat Kamala. A woman.
I’m still of the belief that 2024, Biden beats Trump.
I don’t think so. In each case, there was significant dissatisfaction with the losing candidate prior to the election.
Also Harris straight up refused to denounce a genocide. Not a popular stance for people who would usually be voting democrat.
So logically they voted for an even more aggressive perpetuator?
However you feel about it is irrelevant, it’s one of the reasons she lost.
No, many didn’t vote or they protest voted.
Random tangent but I rewatched Dr. Strangelove today and was struck by how much General Turgidson sounds exactly like liberals on here.
It’s the exact same lesser-evilist logic combined with the exact same condescension towards anyone who’s not a psychopath.
Even if you want to go full on, “Actually, Turgidson was right,” you still can’t make it your platform and expect it to be popular.
I think you are severely overestimating the average U.S voter here. Religious cultists will not vote for women. The U.S is full of religious cultists.
Hillary won the popular vote.
Don’t give them ideas, they will not hesitate to run Hunter Biden.
Hunter vs Don Jr.
A matchup for the ages.
God, if only Stephen Colbert would still be hosting the Late Show in 2028. Imagine the Don Jr impressions!
A lot of people wonder what George Carlin’s material today would be about. I already know what it would be about. Just listen to his old material, and have AI insert the name Trump into his old material about the republicans draining the country for personal gain. See, the thing is, his material isn’t timeless. It’s just that we as a society haven’t fixed our shit, or fixed the core problems that gave him material. If anything we’ve amplified the problems. So if Carlin was complaining back then, I assume his modern day stance would be to take a pistol to the mouth. I can’t imagine complaining about problems you can’t fix, for 30+ years, and keep living to watch it get progressively worse over time.
Kamala brought on a lot of the exact same staffers who helped Hillary lose and ran a similar and bad campaign. Female democratic senators won in three of the swing states that Kamala lost.
But it isn’t really about the facts, at a certain point. It’s just a symbolic belief that allows people to absolve Kamala and the democrats of all fault. People love to punch down at voters instead of punching up and demanding better candidates, even though that’s a complete inversion of how democracy is meant to work. This inability to self-criticize and change things that don’t work is, ironically, another reason that the democrats perform poorly.
It’s more some Trump voters only voted for Trump because he was seen as anti-establishment. So Mamdani being seen as anti-establishment=those type of Trump voters voting for him.
Your comment is the real sexism. And socialist erasure, for that matter.
Run an actual leftist woman and watch her cruise to victory. I fucking dare you!
I see how you would think that. But, I think you’re delusional about 2024. If Biden didn’t decide to run again and there was a real primary, the democrats would have had a real chance. The problem was that both Hillary and Kamala were basically appointed as the candidates by the party.
You’re not wrong. Sexism and racism are defining characteristics of this country’s voters.
Bernie lost to Hilary, a woman.