• Zak@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    I’m still of the belief that 2024, Biden beats Trump.

    I don’t think so. In each case, there was significant dissatisfaction with the losing candidate prior to the election.

    • In 2016, it was because people saw the DNC as having subverted the democratic process to give the nomination to Clinton when Sanders might have won in a fair race.
    • In 2020, pick any of Trump’s many faults, or the various impacts of the pandemic. He was terribly unpopular and would have lost to any mainstream candidate.
    • In 2024, it was mostly economic concerns, for which many blamed Biden. Harris positioned herself as a continuation of Biden when Biden was terribly unpopular.
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      2 days ago

      Also Harris straight up refused to denounce a genocide. Not a popular stance for people who would usually be voting democrat.

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          1 day ago

          Random tangent but I rewatched Dr. Strangelove today and was struck by how much General Turgidson sounds exactly like liberals on here.

          It is necessary now to make a choice, to choose between two, admittedly regrettable, but nevertheless distinguishable postwar environments: one, where you got 20 million people killed, and another, where you got 150 million people killed!

          You’re talking about mass murder, General, not war… I will not go down in history as the greatest mass murderer since Adolf Hitler.

          Perhaps it might be better, Mr. President, if you were more concerned with the American people, than with your image in the history books!

          It’s the exact same lesser-evilist logic combined with the exact same condescension towards anyone who’s not a psychopath.

          Even if you want to go full on, “Actually, Turgidson was right,” you still can’t make it your platform and expect it to be popular.

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      2 days ago

      I think you are severely overestimating the average U.S voter here. Religious cultists will not vote for women. The U.S is full of religious cultists.