Kind of seems like you are, can’t really think of any other good reason you’d be on here bothering people like this. You’re not helping win anyone to your cause by doing it, you’re not adding anything useful to any discussions, you’re note even particularly funny or interesting, so I can only assume you just enjoy being a prick, and this gives you an excuse to do it.
Unless you’re getting paid to do it, which is certainly a possibility.
There is always the possibility that you are getting paid to shut down anyone who says to do more than just a biannual protest. 🤷♂️
So, I assume you enjoy the direction that the United States is going? I assume you enjoy the current effectiveness of the No Kings protesting (zero change)?
Will you continue to ignore those direct questions, essentially proving me correct?
Do you know that there is a state between peaceful protesting and killing people? Or can you only see in black-and-white?
There certainly is a possibility, but if either or both of us are paid shills this conversation won’t go anywhere so let’s go ahead and discount that possibility.
What do you mean “continue” to ignore these direct questions? So far you’ve just been accusing me of being maga for some reason, you haven’t been asking any questions.
And yes, so far I’m quite happy with what no kings (and other protests) have achieved. There’s still a long way to go but we are slowly waking people up to the fact that things are not ok and that they need to do something.
Yes more people need to be doing more, but great masses of people are slow to mobilize. If we can’t even get most people to show up to a protest that is more of a party than anything, how the hell do you think you’re going to get people to go from 0-100, from doing nothing to taking more direct action? You’re certainly not going to get them to do it by browbeating them over not doing enough, they have to want to do more.
Every new person who shows up to a protest is someone who’s taking that first step towards more action than they were the day before. Some of them may never be convinced to take more direct action, that’s just the way the world is, but some of them will and they have to learn to crawl before they can walk and eventually run.
And people like you are doing nothing to encourage them, in fact you scare them away.
And even if they don’t take direct action themselves, since they’re more aware of what’s going on and what’s at stake, it means they might be more likely to lend support to those who are when they’re able, or at least turn a blind eye to them.
Do not split.
And I think your premise is flawed. There really isn’t much if any space between peaceful and killing. There’s a lot that you can do under the category of peaceful protest, including a lot that we haven’t started doing in any great scale and need to start, but once violence is introduced, killing is not far off. It doesn’t take much to kill a person, people die all the time from stupid accidents tripping over their own feet, one shove or thrown punch and some bad luck could be all it takes, so the moment you’ve decided to escalate from peaceful protest to violent action, you have opened the door for killing, and once you’ve set that precedent, you had better have the numbers behind you to continue down that road and win if the other side decides to respond the same way.
This is exhausting. There’s a lot of stuff that can be done that is not peaceful, but not killing. Direct action does not have to be taken against humans. There are lots of physical things that could be done to non-humans.
As an example, in Portland they put up a bunch of posters all over town. That’s a good start, but what we really need to do is find the home locations of ice employees and put those posters on their homes. No one died, but the people supporting fascism start to feel the heat.
More visible graffiti calling for more direct action is also a pretty low effort way to make sure People can’t forget what’s going on. If a person driving to work Is constantly reminded of reality, they can’t ignore it (as much).
So yes, there are plenty of things we can do besides standing on the street with signs and besides killing people.
I very much enjoy that I occupy a space in your mind.
I figure any time you’re replying to me is a time you’re not being a pest to someone else
🫡 thanks for your service.
I really like that he seemed to think it wasn’t an effective tactic, but it sure seemed to keep him busy all day instead of bothering other people.
Thanks for being the lightning rod for the FUD spreaders.
That tactic is about as effective as a peaceful protest.
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You could also be out buying ammo or whatever instead of doing this.
I could just be like you and enjoy what’s happening.
Kind of seems like you are, can’t really think of any other good reason you’d be on here bothering people like this. You’re not helping win anyone to your cause by doing it, you’re not adding anything useful to any discussions, you’re note even particularly funny or interesting, so I can only assume you just enjoy being a prick, and this gives you an excuse to do it.
Unless you’re getting paid to do it, which is certainly a possibility.
There is always the possibility that you are getting paid to shut down anyone who says to do more than just a biannual protest. 🤷♂️
So, I assume you enjoy the direction that the United States is going? I assume you enjoy the current effectiveness of the No Kings protesting (zero change)?
Will you continue to ignore those direct questions, essentially proving me correct?
Do you know that there is a state between peaceful protesting and killing people? Or can you only see in black-and-white?
There certainly is a possibility, but if either or both of us are paid shills this conversation won’t go anywhere so let’s go ahead and discount that possibility.
What do you mean “continue” to ignore these direct questions? So far you’ve just been accusing me of being maga for some reason, you haven’t been asking any questions.
And yes, so far I’m quite happy with what no kings (and other protests) have achieved. There’s still a long way to go but we are slowly waking people up to the fact that things are not ok and that they need to do something.
Yes more people need to be doing more, but great masses of people are slow to mobilize. If we can’t even get most people to show up to a protest that is more of a party than anything, how the hell do you think you’re going to get people to go from 0-100, from doing nothing to taking more direct action? You’re certainly not going to get them to do it by browbeating them over not doing enough, they have to want to do more.
Every new person who shows up to a protest is someone who’s taking that first step towards more action than they were the day before. Some of them may never be convinced to take more direct action, that’s just the way the world is, but some of them will and they have to learn to crawl before they can walk and eventually run.
And people like you are doing nothing to encourage them, in fact you scare them away.
And even if they don’t take direct action themselves, since they’re more aware of what’s going on and what’s at stake, it means they might be more likely to lend support to those who are when they’re able, or at least turn a blind eye to them.
Do not split.
And I think your premise is flawed. There really isn’t much if any space between peaceful and killing. There’s a lot that you can do under the category of peaceful protest, including a lot that we haven’t started doing in any great scale and need to start, but once violence is introduced, killing is not far off. It doesn’t take much to kill a person, people die all the time from stupid accidents tripping over their own feet, one shove or thrown punch and some bad luck could be all it takes, so the moment you’ve decided to escalate from peaceful protest to violent action, you have opened the door for killing, and once you’ve set that precedent, you had better have the numbers behind you to continue down that road and win if the other side decides to respond the same way.
This is exhausting. There’s a lot of stuff that can be done that is not peaceful, but not killing. Direct action does not have to be taken against humans. There are lots of physical things that could be done to non-humans.
As an example, in Portland they put up a bunch of posters all over town. That’s a good start, but what we really need to do is find the home locations of ice employees and put those posters on their homes. No one died, but the people supporting fascism start to feel the heat.
More visible graffiti calling for more direct action is also a pretty low effort way to make sure People can’t forget what’s going on. If a person driving to work Is constantly reminded of reality, they can’t ignore it (as much).
So yes, there are plenty of things we can do besides standing on the street with signs and besides killing people.