This is exhausting. There’s a lot of stuff that can be done that is not peaceful, but not killing. Direct action does not have to be taken against humans. There are lots of physical things that could be done to non-humans.
As an example, in Portland they put up a bunch of posters all over town. That’s a good start, but what we really need to do is find the home locations of ice employees and put those posters on their homes. No one died, but the people supporting fascism start to feel the heat.
More visible graffiti calling for more direct action is also a pretty low effort way to make sure People can’t forget what’s going on. If a person driving to work Is constantly reminded of reality, they can’t ignore it (as much).
So yes, there are plenty of things we can do besides standing on the street with signs and besides killing people.
If you’re exhausted, you can stop anytime you want.
Those are examples of peaceful protest. They’re a necessary escalation from where we are now, but we still need to warm people up to taking that kind of action.
That’s not “peaceful” in the way MOST people think of peaceful. Criminal activity is not “peaceful.”
And yes but, warm up doesn’t happen when people like you shut down people saying standing around isn’t enough. I get that you don’t like how I’m saying it, and I am very willing to consider a different message if you want to help me find it.
We are running out of time to do this. I’m hoping November becomes a real hard kick in the face for a lot of people.
For starters, if you want to find your new message, just stop being an asshole to people who are trying to be more engaged and celebrating the steps that people are taking
What you want to be doing is basically the old improv technique of “Yes, and…”
"It’s great that you showed up to protest. If you want to do more to help these causes you can…
Help put up these posters
Hand out these pamphlets near home Depot
Use these resources to report ICE sightings
Make sure you show up to vote
Boycott these companies
Show up to the next protest and bring some friends so that they can start helping too
Etc.
As far as people not considering criminal activity to be peaceful protest, consider, for example, sit-ins or Rosa Parks refusing to give up her seat, etc. I don’t think anyone would consider those to be anything but peaceful, but yet those were criminal acts, trespassing for example. When you provide that sort of context, it helps people open their minds to other ways
But seriously, start by just not being a disagreeable prick. You’re not helping anyone.
Buddy, you started this disagreement between you and I. Not me. You initialized it. You got triggered at a comment not to you, and attacked. So if anyone needs to stop being an asshole it’s you. You’re just as disagreeable as me.
Oh, and I’m already doing those things. I’m not the one who needs to be convinced. It’s the people who need their hands held… and if they can’t help themselves by now, they deserve the inevitable.
You’re posting on a public forum, every comment you make is directed at everyone who can see it. If you don’t want people inserting themselves into a conversation, take it to their DMs.
Good for you that you’re doing those things elsewhere, now stop shooting yourself in the foot by being counterproductive and scaring people away on Lemmy.
This is exhausting. There’s a lot of stuff that can be done that is not peaceful, but not killing. Direct action does not have to be taken against humans. There are lots of physical things that could be done to non-humans.
As an example, in Portland they put up a bunch of posters all over town. That’s a good start, but what we really need to do is find the home locations of ice employees and put those posters on their homes. No one died, but the people supporting fascism start to feel the heat.
More visible graffiti calling for more direct action is also a pretty low effort way to make sure People can’t forget what’s going on. If a person driving to work Is constantly reminded of reality, they can’t ignore it (as much).
So yes, there are plenty of things we can do besides standing on the street with signs and besides killing people.
If you’re exhausted, you can stop anytime you want.
Those are examples of peaceful protest. They’re a necessary escalation from where we are now, but we still need to warm people up to taking that kind of action.
That’s not “peaceful” in the way MOST people think of peaceful. Criminal activity is not “peaceful.”
And yes but, warm up doesn’t happen when people like you shut down people saying standing around isn’t enough. I get that you don’t like how I’m saying it, and I am very willing to consider a different message if you want to help me find it.
We are running out of time to do this. I’m hoping November becomes a real hard kick in the face for a lot of people.
For starters, if you want to find your new message, just stop being an asshole to people who are trying to be more engaged and celebrating the steps that people are taking
What you want to be doing is basically the old improv technique of “Yes, and…”
"It’s great that you showed up to protest. If you want to do more to help these causes you can…
Help put up these posters
Hand out these pamphlets near home Depot
Use these resources to report ICE sightings
Make sure you show up to vote
Boycott these companies
Show up to the next protest and bring some friends so that they can start helping too
Etc.
As far as people not considering criminal activity to be peaceful protest, consider, for example, sit-ins or Rosa Parks refusing to give up her seat, etc. I don’t think anyone would consider those to be anything but peaceful, but yet those were criminal acts, trespassing for example. When you provide that sort of context, it helps people open their minds to other ways
But seriously, start by just not being a disagreeable prick. You’re not helping anyone.
Buddy, you started this disagreement between you and I. Not me. You initialized it. You got triggered at a comment not to you, and attacked. So if anyone needs to stop being an asshole it’s you. You’re just as disagreeable as me.
Oh, and I’m already doing those things. I’m not the one who needs to be convinced. It’s the people who need their hands held… and if they can’t help themselves by now, they deserve the inevitable.
You’re posting on a public forum, every comment you make is directed at everyone who can see it. If you don’t want people inserting themselves into a conversation, take it to their DMs.
Good for you that you’re doing those things elsewhere, now stop shooting yourself in the foot by being counterproductive and scaring people away on Lemmy.
If you don’t like what people have to say to other users take it to their DMs. You’re being ridiculous.
Clearly everything you say is perfect you are never ever wrong you are a god among gods and I really really hope that you live in a red state.
First your asking for a date now you want me to slide into your DMs to tell you how naughty you are, you really are enjoying this, aren’t you?
I certainly don’t claim to be perfect, when I’m wrong, which I often am, I’m happy to be corrected.
But when I see someone being a prick for no damn good reason and hurting causes I care about, I’m gonna say something about it.
Say something constructive or hold all criticism until 7/12/2178.
I’m glad you’re happy to be corrected. Now, maybe stop obsessing and harassing me—someone on the side you claim to be on.
I’ll shut up when you do.