This happens with every freakin’ RPG. Where’s the Origin Potion for life? How do I respec? I WANT TO MOVE MY SPECIAL

  • YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today
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    21 hours ago

    I couldnt make it past that first goblin cave. And I beat BG1&2 . I don’t know what I’m doing wrong, but I shouldn’t have this big of a problem!

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      I swear a huge part of it is the action economy. You have four people vs 12. If you aren’t taking out like one each turn you end up in a slow ass death spiral.

      The game also expects you to do a shit ton of the side content, but doesn’t always sign post it well, and it also clearly has an idea of the order the side content should be tackled in that there’s no sign posting for at all.

      I can see the bones of a great game, but I don’t understand why I don’t see more people complaining about the abysmal combat balance.

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        Idk, I played without guides or anything and had no issues, elden ring was the only recentish game I played with difficulty, needed a map online with reccomended levels and another to check off what ive done and see whats nearby, I hate missing stuff and so much was easily missable

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          for bg3 just go down every path, never go to far without backtracking and checking the others, I often would seperate my team just to not miss stuff, could usually tell what would be easier to do first

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      I mean… I am down to play Baldur’s Gate if you ever are. Not a joke or anything. I am dead serious. I love to play Baldur’s Gate with people and I am generally good about helping someone learn how to play a game without overshadowing them. I have about a thousand hours in the game. I have been the main character enough. But seriously, if you do want to play at any point, just send me a message.

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    The cool thing is life isn’t over, you CAN respecc, just ask my cousin who switched from janitor/ gamer to software engineer over a few years of night study at the age of 35

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      Yeah, only if you can afford the respec fees or absolutely ruin years of your life with grinding.

      What a miserable existence to force people to go through. If life was a game, I’d be getting a refund.

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      20 hours ago

      If only. There’s only two countries that I’m aware of in the world that will let me transfer my graduate degree into something potentially useful.

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          Law unfortunately. JDs simply are not worth much outside of this country. Canada has the NCA program I believe, but that takes a couple of years. If you’re familiar with this program please feel free to correct me. Foreign council is an option for many countries, but given that the legal system is slowly failing in this country I don’t see that as a safe long-term option. I lack general experience in that area anyways.

          I have friends struggling to find work right now too. The political and economic climate being awful has contributed to this a lot, and I have to respect having some financial stability over potentially being in an unfamiliar country without such stability. I also suspect Americans may not be welcome in a lot of places at this current moment in time either. So that’s how it goes I suppose.

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      I find it interesting that your view of respecing is changing career paths.

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    Cannot get into BG3. I bought it because I was like, “hey, D&D game that supports Mac!” and it’s funny, I know how to play it if I play a rogue. That is certainly an advantage. But turn-based RPGs don’t work for me. At the table it works because the DM is your friend and you’re all having a good time, everyone wants the story to go a certain way, whereas with a video game you have to “beat” the computer. It’s adversarial vs friendly, and until a game can capture that, make me feel like I’m having fun… I feel like games don’t ‘get’ D&D.

    You want a game that’s great for ADHD/Autism? (Well, maybe. I’m undiagnosed. Also, I don’t speak for everyone.) I’ve been having a blast with Blue Prince. It’s obtuse AF, it doesn’t tell you much. It seems like a dumb puzzle game, build rooms randomly to try to get to the top. Oh, you need a key, that closet that gave you a dead end, a key, a gem, and a coin might have been useful! So you “call it a day” (quit) and start over the next day, all the rooms reset… there’s no penalty for “losing” and AFAIK you can’t “die” (it’s not that kinda game). Note what there’s 2 of in nearly every room. Note the relationship between them. Then you get a pad and paper and start writing it down… the stuff you “find” in this game is wild. I feel like I’m not smart enough to play this game. But I don’t wanna look up spoilers because I’m afraid they’ll give the whole thing away and it’ll be over. But I also feel like I learn something with each run. Next time, I think I’m gonna look around outside as well, if I don’t run out of steps (that’s a whole thing but it’s explained in the beginning).

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        Go in as blind as possible. Don’t watch a trailer, just start the game and bring a notepad!

        One thing that is not a spoiler but might give you a clue to the fuckery this game gets down to: if a note has a black background, it’s talking to you, the player, not the character you play. You could think of these as rules of the game, or instructions. It’s like in Zelda: Link’s Awakening when characters say things like “if you wanna do this, press this button, but I don’t know what that means”.

        That said, it’s mostly a chill game. There is one point fairly early on where you might expect a jump scare. There isn’t one, but it sure sets you up for one! The game is not meant to scare you, it’s meant to inspire your sense of wonder and discovery.

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          … with the dropping of the coin …

          shivers

          one of the best scenes in any game I’ve played

          Makes me think of the first time starting Darkest Dungeons, hearing the narrator with an exhausted and despondent voice on the verge of tears:

          “ruin has come to our family”

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      I am obsessed with Blue Prince, myself and some friends have been playing together and it’s the coolest game I’ve ever played. Truly one of the best games of all time

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        I think it’s a bit too hard (obtuse), but I kinda like that. I don’t like games that are too hard that rely on expert timing, whether it’s something like Guitar Hero/Rockband (except those, you can lower the difficulty) or Dark Souls/Elden Ring or Hollow Knight where knowing where to go and what to do isn’t enough, you have to tap the buttons in a very precise order or… you lose. I like something that is fun even if you can’t figure it out. On the surface, Blue Prince is like a board game almost. But there’s a lot to discover, and I don’t believe you have to discover all of it in order to complete the primary objective.

        It harkens back to a time before the Internet when gamers would meet up at local clubs (like where you go to buy board games and play D&D) and discuss their findings/progress. Before you could “just Google it” or look it up on GameFAQs or Cheat Code Central — or YouTube. I mean, sure, you could do that, learn all of its secrets in one video, but then you lose so much of what made old puzzle games great. Figuring it out, and meeting with other fans and getting hints.

        There’s another game, but it’s PC only (I can run it on my Mac with Whisky, though, so it could probably be ported pretty easily), called Noita… it’s more like Hack/NetHack in that it’s more of a dungeon delver with multiple levels. Play it for a week, you’ll probably get to the last boss and beat him. That isn’t that hard. Though it’s no cake walk, either. But, that’s also not the point of the game. I don’t think anybody’s found the final/total solution to the game yet. Look up all the spoilers you want; sure, it takes the fun of discovery out, but you’re still not gonna beat the game. There are a few end game conditions where you win a fight, and some you can even survive, but there are still secrets that haven’t been answered. So when you’re playing for knowledge, knowing all of it is one of the win conditions. Perfect example of this is Cyberpunk 2077. A long, but pretty straightforward action RPG, similar to Fallout 4 and Grand Theft Auto 5. It has multiple endings, all of them valid, but someone found a code and it took a few years for players to crack it. They did, it was no big deal IIRC, but still, if the game holds a secret from you, have you really beaten it? Another knowledge based thing with Cyberpunk is, major storyline spoiler, I don’t know how to do spoilers on this platform, so, base64 decode what’s in the brackets: [Sm9obm55IFNpbHZlcmhhbmQgZGlkbid0IGJsb3cgdXAgQXJhc2FrYSBUb3dlciwgb3IgZG8gYSBsb3Qgb2YgdGhpbmdzIGhlIHRob3VnaHQgaGUgZGlkLCBNb3JnYW4gQmxhY2toYW5kIGRpZCBtb3N0IG9mIGl0LCBhbmQgSm9obm55IHdhcyBiZXRyYXllZCBieSBoaXMgY3Jldw==].

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          What blows my mind about Blue Prince is when you’ve been playing for probably 20+ hours trying your hardest to get the objective and you finally beat the game…

          spoiler

          and you realize that’s the tutorial

          then you get to the main objective! you win!

          you thought there couldn’t possibly be more to the game you’ve seen it all of course

          … that was just level two

          I’ve never in my life had such a mindfuck realizing how much you can layer into the same game and keep it fresh.

          You aren’t wrong though,

          spoiler

          (I’m not even done level three yet)

          this game so mind alteringly hard and random it makes the Myst series look like 3/10 difficulty.

          And not unfair! I never feel cheated or like I ruined anything! There’s mistakes sure, but eh, you’ll get it next time. You never ever lose anything you can’t recover.

          Plus the real unlocks are the things you learn. The systems.

          It’s a lot like Balatro in that way. You play red or yellow deck and beat Ante 8 boss and yay you won the game! Wow that scaling mult joker really made it happen! Fast forward a few hundred games and you’re trying to beat Gold Stake Black Deck surfing the absolute razor edge of numerical possibilities like a damn mentat human computer. You never lose at Balatro, you just start the next loop and you get better.

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    It’s not wrong if you enjoyed it. Minmaxing kills the fun a lot of the time too.

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      How. I’m still doing my first playthrough and have like 20 hours in act 3 (of 80 total). There’s a huge amount of content in there

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        probably in the ballpark of 30-40 playthroughs (just a guess, maybe way more) just never happy with my builds and a need to explore every nook and cranny. I’m fairly confident I could count on my hands everything in acts 1+2 that I haven’t seen

        also most of this was immediately after launch on my PC that’s kinda underpowered for it so act 2 in specific spoilery areas chugged and I knew act 3 would get much worse if not completely crashing

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    First two BG3 runs finished no problem. After the second run, though, I had experienced the joy of Berserker Barbarian. Lost interest in every run after. “Sure Bard is cool, but I really want to chuck this guy in a pit right now.” “Oh this shadow sorcerer gets a demon dog summon! Shame I can’t hit a dude with another dude though.”

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      You could always run a push caster with Thunderwave and Gust of Wind to push people off cliffs while you’re ramping up. Then when you get Telekinesis, you can throw dudes at dudes with your mind.

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    This is why there should never be a level cap, and when I learn that I’ve built my character all wrong I should be able to just grind a bit more and fix it by spending points somewhere else.

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    More like your build would be fine if it wasn’t PTW and the admins not only do nothing about rampant cheating they actually encourage their buddies to cheat and they announce that the next patch will make the game great again and they break features that were fine but now you have to pay for basic shit to function at all and for some fucking reason idiots keep paying for the next battle pass that is the same shit but worse as long as they can shit on those that can’t or won’t pay for the battle pass and it hurts because it could have been great, it has deep lore and there are many that greatly care about the world building and now they require photo ID for no other reasons than targeted ads and invasion of privacy and you have been permanently banned for the crime of reporting evidence of a child predator and your neighbors are being swatted.

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    Yep, this is I. I have a terrible min-max disease. Also, sometimes I forget to play a game for a while and then I don’t remember the story line leading up to where I am in the game, and then I have to play from the start again. That’s why it took me like 3 years and many restarts to get through Witcher 3.

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    I finally got the idea to install BG3 again and finish my Wyll origin run. Only to discover the game crashing every time I load the save.

    Started a Gale origin to see if the whole game was bugged. Got halfway through act 1 until I found a way to fix my Wyll save. So I’m back there and accidentally started one of the quests I hate the most.

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    I would go all in glass cannon or backwards parry build if rpg builds existed in real life

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    It wasn’t so much building the character wrong but convincing the people around me that it was a legitimate character. The magic potions are also a game changer.

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    Hahahah… I have like 1200 hours and four different characters in Skyrim. Still haven’t finished it. The only game I’ve actually “finished” is AC Valhalla. And I’m now going back and doing all the DLCs.