It’s been a little over half a year since RFK Jr. was confirmed as Secretary of Health and Human Services and his tenure thus far has been chaotic, to put it mildly. Listing all of the variou…
@Assassassin@vegeta And another 30% can’t be bothered to get off their ignorant dead asses to even VOTE. So you are correct, we are fucked, and getting more fucked every single day.
New York fielded AOC and now Mamdani. Georgia flipped blue back in 2020.
Local elections matter. Arguably moreso than federal (barring deranged fascist dictators taking over…). That is how republicans gain the power to destroy school boards and take over states so that they can gerrymander it and make it much harder to ever be voted out.
So… maybe you should think harder before choosing to do nothing?
Ah, apologies. I did not realize you were part of secret seal team seven.
But… honestly? Try harder. It fucking sucks and it is massively demoralizing. But if there is any hope in the system then it involves fixing things locally and propagating that upwards. It is literally what republicans did and we can see the counter efforts bearing fruit around the country.
And if there is no longer any way to run counter efforts (increasingly likely come 2028…) then we are in a very different stage of things and probably shouldn’t be discussing that on public facing forums.
Turnout in 2024 was above the baseline. It was just off the '20 record high, thanks to sharp constrictions in rules for registration and mail-in ballots.
Incidentally, the move to grant universal national mail-in voting in 2020 saw national turnout skyrocket to levels historically enjoyed by states like Wisconsin and Oregon, which already had universal state-level mail-in voting.
People appointed by an elected official are the consequences of the election that installed that official. Thus, the 30% that did not vote were in effect, indirectly responsibe for the HHS secretary appointment.
Thus, the 30% that did not vote were in effect, indirectly responsibe
You’re assuming this 30% would default to the second place candidate. If they split their vote, it’s a wash. If they all vote third party, its a wash. Hell, if they reinforce the EC margins in big blue states, its a wash.
Our winner take all system deliberately marginalizes fringe positions. The only way this 30% matters is if they voted for Harris in exclusively Red States in sufficient quantities to flip those states.
Beto played this game in Texas and lost, repeatedly. It turns out that Republicans can also activate idle voters, and at a pace that’s faster than their liberal peers.
Meanwhile, Harris underperformed other Democrats in purple/blue states, suggesting she just ran a bad campaign
I’d be curious to know how many of those 33% are actually aware of each thing RFK Jr has done, how many approve each of those things, and how many are just stating their answers here as a way of expressing their support for Trump.
The propaganda bubble most of these people live in insulates them from reality, but at the same time, I’m pretty sure you could invent a fictional Trump appointee and a majority of Republicans would claim they approve of the job they are doing. And you could probably get them to say they support all kinds of crazy shit they don’t actually agree with as long as they view the question as a partisan referendum.
I would add on: How many people just know rfk as “that health guru my favorite celebrity talked about”.
Never forget that there was a fairly large trend on google of “Did Biden drop out” last year on fucking election day.
People are deeply ignorant. Intentionally so. Just think about all the times over the years you have seen “I am going to stop watching the news for my mental health” and all that.
I have a coworker who is anti-vax and also anti-immigrant. This would be utterly unremarkable except that the reason she is anti-immigrant is that she thinks they’re all unvaccinated and bringing diseases into this country.
That tracks. About a third of people are hopeless morons, just in general. Look up any statistic about how many people believe something stupid, it’s always about a third.
33% of people approve
For real? We’re so fucked.
@Assassassin @vegeta And another 30% can’t be bothered to get off their ignorant dead asses to even VOTE. So you are correct, we are fucked, and getting more fucked every single day.
voter suppression. non proportional representation.
the pitifully low voter turnout is a systemic issue.
Which just means we’re more fucked because to fix the system we need people to vote more.
We’re in a crashing plane and the cockpit is locked.
Elections are run locally. You can get involved.
If I thought it would have any effect at all I would certainly do that.
New York fielded AOC and now Mamdani. Georgia flipped blue back in 2020.
Local elections matter. Arguably moreso than federal (barring deranged fascist dictators taking over…). That is how republicans gain the power to destroy school boards and take over states so that they can gerrymander it and make it much harder to ever be voted out.
So… maybe you should think harder before choosing to do nothing?
You say that like I haven’t been fruitlessly doing that for a quarter century.
Maybe think harder before assuming I don’t know how fucked we actually are.
Ah, apologies. I did not realize you were part of secret seal team seven.
But… honestly? Try harder. It fucking sucks and it is massively demoralizing. But if there is any hope in the system then it involves fixing things locally and propagating that upwards. It is literally what republicans did and we can see the counter efforts bearing fruit around the country.
And if there is no longer any way to run counter efforts (increasingly likely come 2028…) then we are in a very different stage of things and probably shouldn’t be discussing that on public facing forums.
Turnout in 2024 was above the baseline. It was just off the '20 record high, thanks to sharp constrictions in rules for registration and mail-in ballots.
Incidentally, the move to grant universal national mail-in voting in 2020 saw national turnout skyrocket to levels historically enjoyed by states like Wisconsin and Oregon, which already had universal state-level mail-in voting.
Reasonably sure HHS Secretary isn’t an elected position.
People appointed by an elected official are the consequences of the election that installed that official. Thus, the 30% that did not vote were in effect, indirectly responsibe for the HHS secretary appointment.
You’re assuming this 30% would default to the second place candidate. If they split their vote, it’s a wash. If they all vote third party, its a wash. Hell, if they reinforce the EC margins in big blue states, its a wash.
Our winner take all system deliberately marginalizes fringe positions. The only way this 30% matters is if they voted for Harris in exclusively Red States in sufficient quantities to flip those states.
Beto played this game in Texas and lost, repeatedly. It turns out that Republicans can also activate idle voters, and at a pace that’s faster than their liberal peers.
Meanwhile, Harris underperformed other Democrats in purple/blue states, suggesting she just ran a bad campaign
I’d be curious to know how many of those 33% are actually aware of each thing RFK Jr has done, how many approve each of those things, and how many are just stating their answers here as a way of expressing their support for Trump.
The propaganda bubble most of these people live in insulates them from reality, but at the same time, I’m pretty sure you could invent a fictional Trump appointee and a majority of Republicans would claim they approve of the job they are doing. And you could probably get them to say they support all kinds of crazy shit they don’t actually agree with as long as they view the question as a partisan referendum.
I would add on: How many people just know rfk as “that health guru my favorite celebrity talked about”.
Never forget that there was a fairly large trend on google of “Did Biden drop out” last year on fucking election day.
People are deeply ignorant. Intentionally so. Just think about all the times over the years you have seen “I am going to stop watching the news for my mental health” and all that.
I have a coworker who is anti-vax and also anti-immigrant. This would be utterly unremarkable except that the reason she is anti-immigrant is that she thinks they’re all unvaccinated and bringing diseases into this country.
Doublethink in the purest form
Doubleplusunthink
That is hilariously, maddenly accurate. You win the day!
That tracks. About a third of people are hopeless morons, just in general. Look up any statistic about how many people believe something stupid, it’s always about a third.