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New York fielded AOC and now Mamdani. Georgia flipped blue back in 2020.
Local elections matter. Arguably moreso than federal (barring deranged fascist dictators taking over…). That is how republicans gain the power to destroy school boards and take over states so that they can gerrymander it and make it much harder to ever be voted out.
So… maybe you should think harder before choosing to do nothing?
Ah, apologies. I did not realize you were part of secret seal team seven.
But… honestly? Try harder. It fucking sucks and it is massively demoralizing. But if there is any hope in the system then it involves fixing things locally and propagating that upwards. It is literally what republicans did and we can see the counter efforts bearing fruit around the country.
And if there is no longer any way to run counter efforts (increasingly likely come 2028…) then we are in a very different stage of things and probably shouldn’t be discussing that on public facing forums.
See, I’ve given up hope in the system. Republicans managed to do it because the institutions still sort of worked, and they destroyed them during their takeover so it can’t happen again.
But you’ll understand if stuff like what you said makes people assume you are a lazy doomer who doesn’t understand how the government works rather than someone actively discouraging others from even trying.
Jesus fucking christ dude, you’re talking like anyone can run and win in local elections.
Over 100 people usually run for every position, and most of them never get the signatures they need to run because nobody knows them because they don’t start off with enough money to advertise their name everywhere.
The system is absolutely fucked and we are not going to vote our way out, engage with reality and stop with the Neoliberal talking points
Please stop discouraging people from understanding the systems around them and feeding them propaganda.
No. I am not saying “anyone can run and win in local elections”… barring the really fucked scenarios where there is literally a single person running.
But if you coordinate with one of the local parties? You would be shocked how easy it is to get those signatures. Because, for even a medium sized city, it actually doesn’t take THAT much money to run a campaign. And many local orgs will have their own team of volunteer phone bankers and people willing to go door to door. Or… there aren’t even that many candidates and they spend more time convincing someone to run for comptroller than actually convincing people to vote for said comptroller.
The key is that you have to actually get involved. You can’t just show up on election day and say “Fuck you, vote for me because I am against dark money”. You show up for meetings. You get on the zoom calls that actually discuss policy and strategy (and realize how wild it is to literally be asking a future POTUS questions and grilling them on things behind doors that don’t come up on CNN) and so forth. And no, you don’t need to become a massive big wig for that. Calls to the regional offices are actually pretty common because… those regional offices are what put us in a position where a congress person or POTUS can even do anything in the first place.
If all you want is accelerationism because call of duty taught you that you’ll end up on top? We… might already be there. But don’t get pissy if other people are actually trying to do what the republicans literally fucking did to take over this country and put us in this mess in the first place.
You are talking about local orgs that don’t exist doing free work for hundreds of candidates.
I live in one of the poorest states, the canidates for local representatives at the city and state level require hundreds of thousands of dollars in advertising just for regular people to know their name.
It isn’t realistic. What’s more realistic at this point is the violent revolution you’re afraid of.
Okey dokeys. You don’t have to do anything and are a super special person for actively choosing to do nothing.
Let the people who actually care put the work in to build up those grass roots efforts. We weren’t expecting you to do shit anyway. We would just ask that you maybe refrain from throwing a temper tantrum at the idea of people doing more than you. That is a very trumpian mindset and it makes everyone miserable.
If shit were easy and guaranteed to succeed it would already be done
the canidates for local representatives at the city and state level require hundreds of thousands of dollars in advertising just for regular people to know their name.
It isn’t realistic. What’s more realistic at this point is the violent revolution you’re afraid of.
I’m confused here. How do you organize the masses to risk their lives in violent revolution if you lack the ability to organize the masses to fill in a bubble on a piece of paper?
New York fielded AOC and now Mamdani. Georgia flipped blue back in 2020.
Local elections matter. Arguably moreso than federal (barring deranged fascist dictators taking over…). That is how republicans gain the power to destroy school boards and take over states so that they can gerrymander it and make it much harder to ever be voted out.
So… maybe you should think harder before choosing to do nothing?
You say that like I haven’t been fruitlessly doing that for a quarter century.
Maybe think harder before assuming I don’t know how fucked we actually are.
Ah, apologies. I did not realize you were part of secret seal team seven.
But… honestly? Try harder. It fucking sucks and it is massively demoralizing. But if there is any hope in the system then it involves fixing things locally and propagating that upwards. It is literally what republicans did and we can see the counter efforts bearing fruit around the country.
And if there is no longer any way to run counter efforts (increasingly likely come 2028…) then we are in a very different stage of things and probably shouldn’t be discussing that on public facing forums.
See, I’ve given up hope in the system. Republicans managed to do it because the institutions still sort of worked, and they destroyed them during their takeover so it can’t happen again.
We are most definitely in that new stage.
And that’s great.
But you’ll understand if stuff like what you said makes people assume you are a lazy doomer who doesn’t understand how the government works rather than someone actively discouraging others from even trying.
Oh yeah, I get a ton of hate for it.
Doesn’t bother me. It’s not like the internet is real.
Jesus fucking christ dude, you’re talking like anyone can run and win in local elections.
Over 100 people usually run for every position, and most of them never get the signatures they need to run because nobody knows them because they don’t start off with enough money to advertise their name everywhere.
The system is absolutely fucked and we are not going to vote our way out, engage with reality and stop with the Neoliberal talking points
Please stop discouraging people from understanding the systems around them and feeding them propaganda.
No. I am not saying “anyone can run and win in local elections”… barring the really fucked scenarios where there is literally a single person running.
But if you coordinate with one of the local parties? You would be shocked how easy it is to get those signatures. Because, for even a medium sized city, it actually doesn’t take THAT much money to run a campaign. And many local orgs will have their own team of volunteer phone bankers and people willing to go door to door. Or… there aren’t even that many candidates and they spend more time convincing someone to run for comptroller than actually convincing people to vote for said comptroller.
The key is that you have to actually get involved. You can’t just show up on election day and say “Fuck you, vote for me because I am against dark money”. You show up for meetings. You get on the zoom calls that actually discuss policy and strategy (and realize how wild it is to literally be asking a future POTUS questions and grilling them on things behind doors that don’t come up on CNN) and so forth. And no, you don’t need to become a massive big wig for that. Calls to the regional offices are actually pretty common because… those regional offices are what put us in a position where a congress person or POTUS can even do anything in the first place.
If all you want is accelerationism because call of duty taught you that you’ll end up on top? We… might already be there. But don’t get pissy if other people are actually trying to do what the republicans literally fucking did to take over this country and put us in this mess in the first place.
You are talking about local orgs that don’t exist doing free work for hundreds of candidates.
I live in one of the poorest states, the canidates for local representatives at the city and state level require hundreds of thousands of dollars in advertising just for regular people to know their name.
It isn’t realistic. What’s more realistic at this point is the violent revolution you’re afraid of.
You gotta grow up and touch grass on this one.
Okey dokeys. You don’t have to do anything and are a super special person for actively choosing to do nothing.
Let the people who actually care put the work in to build up those grass roots efforts. We weren’t expecting you to do shit anyway. We would just ask that you maybe refrain from throwing a temper tantrum at the idea of people doing more than you. That is a very trumpian mindset and it makes everyone miserable.
If shit were easy and guaranteed to succeed it would already be done
I’m confused here. How do you organize the masses to risk their lives in violent revolution if you lack the ability to organize the masses to fill in a bubble on a piece of paper?
“over 100 people usually run for every position”
Are you out your mind‽‽‽
Around here, and in a LOT of places, there isn’t even a challenger on the ballot!