• Mark@mastodon.world
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    22 hours ago

    @Assassassin @vegeta And another 30% can’t be bothered to get off their ignorant dead asses to even VOTE. So you are correct, we are fucked, and getting more fucked every single day.

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        21 hours ago

        Which just means we’re more fucked because to fix the system we need people to vote more.

        We’re in a crashing plane and the cockpit is locked.

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              19 hours ago

              New York fielded AOC and now Mamdani. Georgia flipped blue back in 2020.

              Local elections matter. Arguably moreso than federal (barring deranged fascist dictators taking over…). That is how republicans gain the power to destroy school boards and take over states so that they can gerrymander it and make it much harder to ever be voted out.

              So… maybe you should think harder before choosing to do nothing?

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                18 hours ago

                You say that like I haven’t been fruitlessly doing that for a quarter century.

                Maybe think harder before assuming I don’t know how fucked we actually are.

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                  18 hours ago

                  Ah, apologies. I did not realize you were part of secret seal team seven.

                  But… honestly? Try harder. It fucking sucks and it is massively demoralizing. But if there is any hope in the system then it involves fixing things locally and propagating that upwards. It is literally what republicans did and we can see the counter efforts bearing fruit around the country.

                  And if there is no longer any way to run counter efforts (increasingly likely come 2028…) then we are in a very different stage of things and probably shouldn’t be discussing that on public facing forums.

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                    18 hours ago

                    See, I’ve given up hope in the system. Republicans managed to do it because the institutions still sort of worked, and they destroyed them during their takeover so it can’t happen again.

                    We are most definitely in that new stage.

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        21 hours ago

        Turnout in 2024 was above the baseline. It was just off the '20 record high, thanks to sharp constrictions in rules for registration and mail-in ballots.

        Incidentally, the move to grant universal national mail-in voting in 2020 saw national turnout skyrocket to levels historically enjoyed by states like Wisconsin and Oregon, which already had universal state-level mail-in voting.

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      21 hours ago

      And another 30% can’t be bothered to get off their ignorant dead asses to even VOTE.

      Reasonably sure HHS Secretary isn’t an elected position.

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        19 hours ago

        People appointed by an elected official are the consequences of the election that installed that official. Thus, the 30% that did not vote were in effect, indirectly responsibe for the HHS secretary appointment.

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          19 hours ago

          Thus, the 30% that did not vote were in effect, indirectly responsibe

          You’re assuming this 30% would default to the second place candidate. If they split their vote, it’s a wash. If they all vote third party, its a wash. Hell, if they reinforce the EC margins in big blue states, its a wash.

          Our winner take all system deliberately marginalizes fringe positions. The only way this 30% matters is if they voted for Harris in exclusively Red States in sufficient quantities to flip those states.

          Beto played this game in Texas and lost, repeatedly. It turns out that Republicans can also activate idle voters, and at a pace that’s faster than their liberal peers.

          Meanwhile, Harris underperformed other Democrats in purple/blue states, suggesting she just ran a bad campaign