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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml to Memes@lemmy.mlEnglish · 13 days ago

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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml to Memes@lemmy.mlEnglish · 13 days ago
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      Peak lib brained statement. Does nobody have to die for it to be a murder?

      Not that your assumption is any less false, there is zero evidence of genocide in Xinjiang, there is an open campaign against fundamentalist radicalization driven by US proxies which had resulted in some of the most deadly terror attacks in the world for more than a decade. The way such a campaign is conducted is via community outreach, job programs and (in cases where people have already been radicalized) reeducation.

      These programs have been lauded by the Arab League as an example to be followed in the fight against terrorism. But if you have any evidence (actual evidence, not war-profiteer ASPI citing fascist evangelical Adrian Zenz and satellite pictures of nondescript buildings) I’d like to see it. Because if you don’t have evidence but are happy to tell others that it’s happening, you might want to examine your gullibility and whether it’s driven by sinophobia.

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      No, they are not trying to do anything of the sort.

      • https://lemmy.ml/comment/14839342
      • https://lemmy.ml/comment/15126223
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        Forced sterilisation says otherwise.

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          Where’s the evidence for that claim? There’s evidence of it happening in Israel and the US migrant concentration camps, but I haven’t seen any regarding China other than “trust me bro”

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            wdym, the proof is from this state approved article that I read which references another article which references another article which references another article which references a funny little book, which is really a collection of campfire stories, signed by weird guy with the initials “A.Z.”. Check and mate.

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            https://ig.ft.com/china-mosques/

            It also matches up with every Youtube video of a person visiting Xinjiang and the mosques are all looking like this.

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              🤷 Not every YouTube video. Maybe every YouTube video that the algorithm shows you.

              • Is Islam banned in China? | Visiting mosques in Xinjiang
              • This is What I Found in Xinjiang China: I was warned Not to Come Here In this exclusive inside look at China’s most controversial region, we tour one China’s oldest mosques and interview the Imam on the truth about Xinjiang.
              • How is Life of Muslims in China 🇨🇳 | First Impression of Urumqi, Xinjiang | Uyghur People
              • Islam Banned in China!? I Visit Mosques and was shocked!
              • Xinjiang residents debunk rumors of “forced demolition of mosques”
              • Visiting a mosque in Xinjiang, understanding the truth about religious freedom in China
              • Did China really destroy its Mosques?
              • Visiting Kuqa Mosque - Xinjiang - China - 库车大寺
              • Debunking rumors: Is centuries-old Uyghur mosque defaced in China’s Xinjiang?
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                I opened your first link and it is a Han style temple…

                Second link as well

                Third link not about mosques

                Fourth link Han style too…

                Fifth is not! But it looks more like an office building

                Sixth is a LOT of Han style mosques.

                Seventh has a dome!

                Eighth has dome as well!

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          For which there is no evidence. In fact the opposite happened: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirmative_action_in_China#Affirmative_action_policies

          In accordance with China’s affirmative action policies towards ethnic minorities, all non-Han ethnic groups were subject to different laws and were usually allowed to have two children in urban areas, and three or four in rural areas.

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            There are mountains of evidence. Most obviously the Chinese government tearing down all mosques minarets and making them look like Chinese temples.

            https://ig.ft.com/china-mosques/

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              I was responding to:

              Forced sterilisation says otherwise.

              Your mountain of Western Imperialism Times evidence isn’t even about forced sterilization or birthrates. It looks like they spent a lot of money on that extraordinarily slick webpage, though. They must really care a lot about the plight of Xinjiang Muslims. Usually they’re not especially sympathetic to Muslims, but for the poor Uyghurs—for no particular reason—their hearts bleed 🤔

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                My bad I think I misread the reaction chain. The organ harvesting is obviously fake.

                I don’t doubt that the FT has an ulterior motive for this investigation. However, the evidence with the pictures holds up. Even if all of the anonymous witnesses in the article are made up.

                Especially when linked with the Sinifaction plan of Islam as pointed out by the article. https://www.chinalawtranslate.com/en/islamsinifcationplan/

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