Sure, there was the attempted assassination of Reagan and the fears for Obama as the first black President, but in those cases it was a lone nutter rather than a conspiracy.

How long can Trump crash the market before an angry billionaire decides to take him out? The remaining Koch brother is already pouring money into legal challenges against Trump…

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    A public assassination like Kennedy’s is meant to send a message. Trump would just have a cardiac event and never come out of the hospital. The real issue will be that he’s old and fat and eats trash, so he could have a legit health problem and die from natural causes easily at his age.

    But then, President JD Vance. I don’t think anyone but Peter Thiel and Elon Musk want that. Trump sucks, but he’s the devil you know. Vance could be turboHitler or just hand the whole country to Silicon Valley. Rule by ChatGPT may be the worst of all possible worlds.

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      YES. This guy gets it. Nobody understands how lucky we are to have this fuckwit as president. Do you see all these actual fascists constantly up in his prostate? Trump was a proof of concept. These taint-lickers are panting to have control. Let’s see how his mouth-breathing paint-eating constituency acts when this fat fuck is dead. Probably no different, but maybe.

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        Yeah but the difference is Trump has the magnetism and Vance doesn’t? Usually when a cult leader dies the whole cult kinda fizzles out.

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          Tell that to the Christians. You might even say their leader dying sparked the whole thing.

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          I think what you call “magnetism” is the balls to straight up lie to your supporters like they’re stupid. Seriously, I think Trump demonstrated that you can just say whatever feels good and people will accept it with zero regard for reality. That’s what was assumed false before Trump. I think they know the game plan now.

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            But he also says it stupid like them, in a way that can’t be faked. That’s why they love him. It’s the classic “wanting to hear your opinion in someone else’s voice”. They want to hear their shitty opinions in someone else’s voice. Except because they’re idiots, they get grammar and syntax wrong. Or they ramble through a dozen conspiracy theories in a single run on sentence. No one but trump can carry on the way he does (at least without a script).

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          Exactly this. Donald Trump has the Charisma to assemble a cult whereas then these other people can hold together the coalition. Everyone’s just writing Trump’s coattails so without him the whole thing just falls apart

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            This is misguided, the rubes will believe whatever the talking heads on Fox News or the algorithmic fuckery from x or reddit, etc

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          I don’t know if you even need the magnetism. Vance has shown he can lie just as bald-facedly As Trump does. For god sakes there was a time where the Republican hordes were carry ground cups of JD Vance cum or something. Does no one remember that? I wouldn’t be so sure they wouldn’t just transfer right to him.

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          I agree but I believe that’s why his underlings are using him as a front to destroy all checks and balances so when he does fizzle out, they can keep control.

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        WE ARE NOT LUCKY TO HAVE A FUCKING HALF-DEAD RETARD AS PRESIDENT. THIS IS NOT OKAY AT ANY FUCKING LEVEL.

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          Your president is half-dead on a few levels sweetie.

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        The only thing possibly holding them off is that there’s 2 or 3 factions all wanting to long knife™ eachother at the first chance, which means they have to be ready to go as soon as the power vacuum happens, and one of the factions controls the VP seat.

        That might delay the chaos a bit, but not for long.

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        Let’s see how his mouth-breathing paint-eating constituency acts when this fat fuck is dead. Probably no different, but maybe.

        Trump and the media have built a cult of personality around Trump. I don’t see how that power could transfer to another person, I can’t think of another person in the line up that has personality.

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          I disagree, and I’ll point you to down-ballot MAGA Republicans who are running and winning saying the same things. I strongly believe that this has nothing to do with Trump’s “personality”, it’s to do with what he was first willing to say and get away with. Nobody assumed you could get away with it and succeed.

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      Vance has no conviction behind anything he ever says. Just google “jd vance never trump” and I’m sure you’ll find a slew of videos from a few years ago where he was saying he’s “a never trump guy”.

      Kinda funny how quickly he spread his asshole to present himself for trump then.

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        Vance could be relatively good. Signs point to no, but those signs are weak. The only thing I truly know about him is that he’ll lie for power. What he does once he gets that power is anyone’s guess.

        He’s close to Peter Thiel. His book is really fucking condescending towards the rural poor. (Why don’t they just get out like he did?) He’s young enough to go for a second term if he gets half a first term. And he hates Trump except when he needs to use him to gain power.

        That’s the complete record of what we know about Vance. Maybe his book was bullshit that he knew would play well with rich conservatives. Maybe he was using Peter Thiel. Maybe there’s a human in there we’ve never seen. Or maybe not.

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      Trump crashing the economy, Trump dying from whatever, Vance taking over and taking credit for any kind of recovery sounds almost like its planned.

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        Nah. The damage Trump has done can’t be undone.

        Sure vance might replace him and take credit for any recovery, but this level of destruction was not planned.

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          I do hope so. The whole don’t buy american movement is just gonna pick up more and more. Once people realise that that’s the best course of action anyway, there is no going back.

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      Trump sucks, but he’s the devil you know. Vance could be turboHitler or […]

      I don’t buy that.

      Whoever would be able, and willing, and succeeding with the first one, is an evil person, and would already have a plan with the second one. An evil plan, I guess, that would make the second one scared enough to become that puppet.

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        President Mike Johnson outlaws women going out in public alone and institutes daily Bible reading classes. Attendance is mandatory if you don’t want to end up in an El Salvador slave prison.