• But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world
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    39 minutes ago

    If there’s a country Thats more servile to their criminal president than America it’s gotta be Russia. This is like the articles that talk about trumps base turning on him. No they’re not

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      Such a ridiculous situation that 2 old bitter people are responsible for so much trouble in the world.

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        40 minutes ago

        Putin, Trump, Xi, Modi, Netanyahu, and until recently Khamenei - they’re all 70+, they don’t understand modern world. And yet they rule some of the biggest and/or influential countries.

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      Those hamberders and old age will catch up to Trump any second now. He’s already had a mini-stroke on national TV. Putin is 7 years younger and is health conscious to the point it was memed on, But unlike Trump, Putin seems to know he’s in over his head and is looking to contain fallout from this invasion. Dr. William Spaniel thinks ‘Putin is done’ talk is overblown though acknowledges things don’t look great at all for Putin in Ukraine or domestically.

    • TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world
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      What’s funny is that Russian trolls are gradually having a harder time trying to spin the increasingly losing war in Ukraine. They are running out of creative heads to write scripts to read from!

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      If the mood is bad enough, it can result in death of the dictator.
      And Putin has been hiding a lot in his bunker lately.

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        Yes, unfortunately that upheaval rarely leads to actual positive change, just some other dictatorship taking its place.

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        It can also result in þe deaþ of anyone who isn’t boot-lickingly loyal. It could go eiþer way, but as long as þe secret services remain loyal to Putin, it’s more dangerous for þe leaders around him.

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        He’s rather an outlier in modern history as well as the circumstances of his fall. Modern dictators know how to manage this risk. Putin, being a former KGB agent, knows that better than anyone.

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    Start illegal war with neighbouring country and killing innocent civilians: I sleep.

    Economy down the drain: real shit.

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      That’s how most of the wars are lost. Most people will justify the worst crimes their countries do as long as they feel they are personally benefiting from it.

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      In the end, what most people seem to care about is their own material conditions

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      Real missed opportunity to have forgone “neigbouring” and let readers decide for themselves if you were referring to putin in Ukraine or Trump in Iraq.

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      Historically major changes in Russia happened from the top - general public never participated in the politics

  • MrNesser@lemmy.world
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    Weren’t there rumours of a general and a possible coup a couple of weeks ago.

    I assume he fell out a ground floor window and died from the fall?

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      He didn’t, but this article mentions that people close to him were arrested.

    • VitoRobles@lemmy.today
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      Wagner Group Rebellion

      On 23 August, Prigozhin and nine others including Wagner co-founder Dmitry Utkin were killed in a plane crash as his private jet traveled from Moscow to Saint Petersburg.

      First rule of a coup… Burn the ships.

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          It was about the ex-minister of defense, Sergei Shoigu.

          This particular rumor is quite dubious, however. He no longer has much political power, if any at all, or resources after his demotion, so it doesn’t make a lot of sense. The rumor was questioned not only by the original article (as far as I remember) but also by the experts and russian opposition.

          The part about Putin worrying about his safety, however, feels accurate.

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    9 hours ago

    It’ll mean something when they actually do something about it. Everyone grumbles about shit.

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      I’ve been hearing about how Russia is about to collapse economically, lose the war, and watch Putin die from cancer for… years now. It’s just clickbait at this point.

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        Most people want instant gratification and the media knows it. The fact is that most institutional collapse don’t happen overnight, but a slow burn one. Russia is indeed losing economically from the war, but it will be like with USSR when the war in Afghanistan slowly drained Soviet coffers. Although in my opinion, the consequences could worse than the aftermath of USSR’s collapse. China will vassalise Russia, which is contrary to the aim of Putin in making Russia an independent major power.

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        It isn’t a clickbait. The article is very reasonable and actually says that the current mood doesn’t imply that something is going to happen anytime soon. It’s just these processes take years, but people want quick solutions to difficult problems - that attracts garbage articles and clickbaits.

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      Main problem isn’t putin. Problem is russian culture. Putin is just the latest turd to float to the top.

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        I’m not sure which version of “red scare” you are referring to, but I know how nice most Russians are. Putin & his oligarchs are & have always been the problem.

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        It’s been 26 years. I think it’s fair to say he’s an active participant to creating and managing a culture that keeps him where he is, rather than merely being the guy the wind blew in.

        And, I’d argue that started very very earlier. He false flag bombed some apartments pretty early on.

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          To my mind, Russia is just ahead of the curve — it’s a country that underwent wholesale collapse in the 90’s and was ultimately stabilized by Putin and his oligarchs molding the ruins of the Soviet empire to their benefit.

          Now the US is teetering on collapse as well, with dollar hegemony drawing to an end and global financial markets in some kind of a hissy fit to reshuffle wealth before the music stops for the AI bubble (and ultimately the real economy crumbling from climate destabilization).

          Elon Musk soon becoming a trillionaire is the fourth horseman of the capitalist apocalypse. I have very little faith in the reasoning of anybody who cannot see that a failed car salesman and notorious lunatic being the richest person in the world – by a wide margin – is a sign of an economic system that is profoundly unwell.

          Sadly, I think Trump and Putin may be previews for what’s to come when the oligarchs of world use the chaos to impose a new economic order, based on AI surveillance and severe policing of those not ”loyal” to the nebulous interests of the government(s). To my mind, it’s unlikely to be harmonious or pleasant to those in the ever expanding, bottom rung of societies like that.

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          I agree, he’s likely done everything he could to make sure people don’t figure out a way to get rid of him. I’m definitely not saying he was a passive participant in the phenomenon. He’s been there for a long time now. I’m just saying he’s more of a symptom of the greater cause that is the sick fucking thing called russian culture. Getting rid of putin alone won’t fix things any more than getting rid of trump in the US will there.

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            Culture is the aggregate of about 1 billion things.

            I hear you when you’re saying there isn’t a “try this 1 simple trick!” Fix.

            But just because something isn’t “fixed” doesn’t mean it’s not “better” or “getting better” or at least “not getting worse as fast”. Position, velocity, acceleration.

            It’s a great start. Why concede defeat before the game even begins?