• pelespirit@sh.itjust.works
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    Wow, this is all from Orban losing. Noice.

    What Magyar Is Actually Doing

    He’s pulling the financial floor out from under the whole operation. Halleluiah!

    No more MCC dividends from Russian oil. No more $1.7 billion in state assets propping up an international influence network. No more Hungarian taxpayer money in CPAC’s pocket. No more money to the Heritage Foundation. No more shredded documents.

    Magyar’s win deprives Putin of his main EU ally and is sending shockwaves through Western right-wing circles. Remove the money, remove the platform, remove the proof-of-concept and what exactly is Heritage selling again? A big fat nothing-burger.

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      I’m still honestly shocked that Orban just kind of ceded without a fight. No challenging results? No hard or soft coup? He’s been in power for decades and was clearly one sick and corrupt fuck… So to abdicate power like that… It just doesn’t track with me.

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    Any democrat president if that happens should clarify them as a terrorist group denied of due process.

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      Sorry best we can do is “I’m-going-to-sit-on-my-hands-until-it’s-too-late Merrick Garland”

      Oops, he waited 3 1/2 years to start and the Reich wing judges delayed until the next election again.

      … I hate that man.

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      You can’t just deny due process because 1; that sets legal precedence, and 2: it opens it up to people claiming wrong doing. There’s a literal mountain of evidence of their crimes, you’ve got to bring it all out publicly like they did in the Nuremberg Trials.

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        Precedent set. Onlu way ti tear it down is quench it in the fires fron which it was forged.

        If you believe we should have power but not use it on nazis who edplicitly want us dead, how the fuck wre you not functionally their ally?bwcause its damn sure being used on the left. Whose side are you on shitlib?

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          28 minutes ago

          Hey, I understand the anger and frustration, but maybe sober up a tad before posting again.

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    Hungarian taxpayer money and Russian oil revenue

    No Russian oil revenue is funding right wing fascism. Hungarian state assets are. Hungarian company is a refinery operation that uses any oil to extort primarily Hungarians for that funding. Deflecting the primary evil of GOP onto foreign actors (that are not Israel maximalists), and fishing for yet another Russia connection, is deflection from GOP evil, and of dysfunction of democracy. US has massive foreign interference operations.

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      Let’s see it unravel first before you try and poo-pooh any connections.

      I hate to bring the bad news to the table, but the US isn’t the ONLY country on the planet with foreign interference capabilities.

      Have you read The Foundations of Geopolitics by Aleksander Dugin?

      You should.

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        Russophobia led people to accept Ukrainian nazification puppetry by the US to force war on Russia, just as Iranophobia was always a march to this war. That a Russian wrote a book on geopolitcs doesn’t change the pure evil forces coordinated on diminishing Russia that exists without addressing how to defend against them.

        This Hungary/Orban funding for evil is serious, explains GOP admiration, and last minute political rally from Vance. Interesting that in the rally Vance held, he tried calling Trump live on speakerphone, but it went to voicemail. Trump doesn’t really care about GOP/CPAC/Heritage.

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          Force war on Russia. The west made Russia invade Ukraine. Russia was like, no, we don’t want to invade a sovereign nation. The west was like, oh yeah well you better. All because russophobia. That must be it.

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          In Ukraine, Russia is the aggressor. In Iran, it’s the United States. Blaming the war in Ukraine on Russophobia is about as reasonable as blaming the war in Iran on their chants of ‘death to America’. You can dress it up any way you want but at the end of the day they are both empires doing the shitty stuff that empires do. Let’s not pretend like either is innocent.

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            Blaming the war in Ukraine on Russophobia is about as reasonable as blaming the war in Iran on their chants of ‘death to America’.

            It’s a bad comparison, as Ukraine/Russia is functionally a civil war over a border that didn’t matter until the USSR dissolved. Iran/US is a proxy war over Israel’s expansion into Lebanon.

            Much like with the breakup of Yugoslavia and subsequent genocidal border wars, the fight between Ukraine and Russia has been manufactured by Western political interests seeking to run both countries down. That’s why the US is sending money and weapons to both countries.

            By contrast, we’re not standing up Iran’s military.

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      The GOP isn’t even real. It’s a trick to distract us from the evil foreigners, I tell ya.

      We need good strong Republicans like Bush and Cheney back in power to protect us from the mean, bad Russians