• tacoplease@lemmy.world
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    3 hours ago

    Trump rigged the 2020 election and STILL lost. That’s why he’s so mad about it.

    Fact is, if his opponents were all white men, he would never win at all.

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      This is both accurate and upsetting, and a step further, had he lost in 16, to anybody. I don’t think he’d have had a chance in 20 if he even ran.

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        A democrat would have been torn apart over COVID no matter how they handled it.

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          I think you’re right to a degree, I do think Covid wouldn’t have been AS bad as under Trump. And the GOP still could’ve marched right into a win in 2020, but those years prior when he was president were still extremely damaging to both the sanity and structure of this country. The Supreme Court nominees alone would leave us in a wildly different state not to mention everything else he did to fan the flames of xenophobia and bigotry

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      I dunno, he would mop the floor with Bloomberg. And he did beat a handful of white men in primaries, though I can see why we’d discount primary victories for obvious reasons

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    2024 was objectively tampered with. i wish that was more of a constant story and headline, because it is not only 100% true but it is demonstrable and we could overturn the results if it was acknowledged by literally goddamn anyone outside of the, FOR SOME REASON, small amount of people who are in the know.

    https://electiontruthalliance.org/2024-us-integrity-concerns/

    as a skeptic, i wouldn’t be desperately trying to get people to accept a reality without there being substantial evidence of it being the case. the ETA is led by experts and professionals in data research, computer analysis, and statistics, but anyone with concerns is able to join and contribute, though the major forces though will have some sort of technical skill to provide credibility. their data and methodology is freely available for peer review and they encourage it. i have watched them speak with professors and respected field experts who have come away agreeing something is up with the 2024 election results. if i’m missing some sort of information about these folks and their group then let me know because i am not finding any red flags and this all seems legit.

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      Ok, it’s 100% true, and everyone acknowledges it. What existing mechanism would you suggest we use to overturn the election?

      IIRC this is the biggest issue with any “stolen election”, we have zero legal remedy for the situation. Once the electors votes have been recorded in Congress, kinda a done deal until the swearing in and then it’s concrete. It would take impeachment and conviction to remove the president, then the VP would take over, so they would also have to be impeached, then on down the line. There is no lever labeled “Pull In Case of Fuckery”, which maybe should be at/near the top of the list should we ever escape MrToads Wild Ride.

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        Once the electors votes have been recorded in Congress, kinda a done deal until the swearing in and then it’s concrete.

        Congress has the authority to handle disputes involving electors including rejection of state electors, but the uphill battle would be a headache. State and federal prosecutors can file suits as well. honestly, i am less certain about the legal side of things because it’s all corrupt and controlled, and more sure that the response of the people would be altering for the nation. i would imagine if this was widely acknowledged and accepted as true then it would add to the building of the coming revolution. the people will have had enough at some point. i don’t know why it hasn’t happened yet, but historically it does.

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      There’s definitely a concept of a plan… to get started planning… Or is that health care? We’re two weeks away from a plan!

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      Thats always the funny thing about this stuff. They COULD have faked it by now, and probably in a way that would be convincing to their base, but you know they are too stupid and lazy to have actually done that.

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    Are we still talking about the 2020 election, it’s the 2000 election we should talk about, or maybe the 1980 one.

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    Sure buddy, let’s see the files on those hanging chads in Florida while you’re at it, Bush lost too, you fucking losers.

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      it still think about the world that could have been. 911 being a footnote about a terrorist plot that came close and the world managing to stay under 1.5

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      He’s already lied under oath (e.g. about how many times Trump is mentioned in the Epstein Files). Him being depositioned wouldn’t mean squat.

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    Patel – who was hit by allegations of alcoholism this weekend, sparking rumors he could soon be fired – told Maria Bartiromo on Fox News’s Sunday Morning Futures: “We have the information that backs President Trump’s claim.

    Dusting off one of the greatest hits for yet, ANOTHER distraction.

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      Well, whaddaya want, they don’t know how to do their actual jobs. Chaos is all they’ve got.

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    Sûre they do! It’s right over there with the Famous Epstein Client List Pam Bondi said she had!