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Relations between the U.S. and the Catholic Church have not been the same since January, when senior U.S. defense officials shared an abrasive message with a Vatican official.
Days after Pope Leo XIV delivered his State of the World speech, Undersecretary of Defense for Policy Elbridge Colby summoned Cardinal Christophe Pierre, the Vatican’s U.S. representative, to a closed-door Pentagon meeting for a bitter lecture.
“The United States,” Colby said, according to a blistering new report by The Free Press, “has the military power to do whatever it wants in the world. The Catholic Church had better take its side.”
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In what fucking world does it make sense that i ally myself with the pope. I hate this timeline
That context though… Thanks for that!
In this day and age, literally anything sounds like it could be true, so I try to take some especially inflammatory things with a healthy grain of salt.
Also, with a suspiciously generic name like “Free Press”, you bet I’m looking at your credentials!
I’m starting to believe JD isn’t a true believer of his religion 🤡
Six of our nine Supreme Court Justices are Catholics.
As catholic as 5 year old croissants left outside in the dirt are
The pope could do the funniest thing rn and call a crusade on the US
Why bother? Just excommunicate the usual suspects, and watch the cognitive dissonance of the ultra-catholics.
I remember in the last book of the Bible it always talks about the very Christian one world government.
Guys fucking delusional 🤣 we’ve seen how well that works over the last 50 years.
Ah, the old Might Makes Right mantra!
This one predates humanity itself, or even cellular lifeforms. I wonder why the Cardinal did not know this? Oh well, at least now he has been reeducated, so all should be well!
Pew poll: 52% of Catholics including 61% of white Catholics back Trump over Harris
Should be interesting to see how that plays with the electorate.
EDIT: Also, I don’t have my finger on the pulse of the Catholic Church in the US, but the current pope, Leo XIV, was the first born in the US. I know that John Paul II, Polish, was the first Polish pope and was highly-regarded in Poland, and I can imagine that there might be a similar effect in the US among American Catholics.
Catholics are not the major Christian group, it’s 2nd place in the US. 69% of US residents claim to be Christian, 45% of which Christians claim to be Protestant while only 22% of which say Catholic (Gallup 2020). It’s regional too, I beleive centered around Italian and Irish immigrant communities, or at least the suburbs around where those city diasporas used to be. Protestants specifically do not give a shit about the pope.
Are US protestants the same as UK Anglicans? Like is it the same church? I thought for sure most US Christians were nutjob baptists or other what would similarly fringe sects anywhere else in the world. Wait, are baptists protestants?
The Episcopalians are the American Anglicans, which is a Protestant denomination. But Baptists, Evangelicals, Presbyterians, Lutherans and lots of others are also American Protestant denominations.
I think you’re correct: Most of US protestants are nutjob baptists in fringe sects. It seems there was a reason for the religious persecution of the puritans…
Anglicanism is sort of Protestantism. It forked off of the Catholic Church after the start of the Protestant Reformation, but wasn’t really part of the movement. The king of England at the time specifically had a problem with the Pope and essentially took over the churches in England, keeping the Catholic traditions and power structure but changing the head of the faith from the Pope to the king. The English monarch is still officially the head of the Anglican Church.
Americans are very much not Anglican and many of the people who emigrated to the colonies were religious minorities from proper Protestant groups.
Now I understand: Mom was devout Christian, & we went to Anglican churches, until Dad ditched us, then Catholic ones…
Finally I understand the 1st Christianity I was brought-up in…
Thank you for your explanation.
It clarifies why Protestantism always seemed … broken, somehow: I’d only ever known Anglicanism & Catholicism, so my view wasn’t as diverse as I’d assumed.
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The king of England at the time specifically had a problem with the Pope
Didn’t he essentially found a new religion so he could get a divorce?
Yep.
Alright, so I had to check my understanding. Yeah, that’s all Protestantism, but they’re all different and all disagree with each other. Baptists are the largest single Protestant group in the US, overlapping to classic original southern US states. Honestly, I thought Protestants were a distinct group but I guess the group I’d assume them to be would actually be Lutherans, assuming they’re adherent to the original protesting Martin Luther.
Evangelicals are the most vocal, and they are very much opposed to the Pope.
“The United States,” Colby said, according to a blistering new report by The Free Press, “has the military power to do whatever it wants in the world. The Catholic Church had better take its side.”
Yes, you have lots of guns and bombs and you’re very big and strong. But the Pope was offering a moral criticism. You know, about morality, doing the right thing. Have you or your “Christian” colleagues ever heard of it? Turns out it doesn’t often align with who is most eager and equipped to kill anyone who looks at them the wrong way. Even Jesus (heard of him?) had a thing or two to say about that.
It’s funny:
The end-times prophecies are clear-as-day, now, & they WHO ARE WALKING INTO IT are ignoring the consequences??
Here’s the 1st-Seal thing, with the Time of Conquering, & the Conqueror ( Trump’s ONLY addiction )
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation+6%3A1-2&version=CJB
& here’s the prophecy about Trump’s “mortal head wound” & pending “miracle cure”…
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation+13%3A3&version=CJB
The funny part?
IF their 2nd Coming appears … he’d be war-incarnate against them ( the guy-on-white-horse-with-double-edged-blade-of-Cutting-True-Speech-projecting-from-his-mouth ), fighting “the beast”, which they hold to be “lord”…
they don’t even know their own prophecies.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation+19%3A11-15&version=CJB
THAT guy would be the LAST thing those abomination-loyal ones would want to see coming into our world!
( caveat: John of Patmos was filtering everything through his unconscious-mind, so the distortions are … kinda rampant. Jung & I both experienced the same kind of distortions, in our VISION-dreams. I’ve no idea if that King of Kings guy is 1st-Seal, aka The Great Filter’s 1st Yang Stage, XOR if it’s later in humankind’s “cell-division”, splitting between the murder-life-for-authority’s-lordhood kind & the LivingSpirit-loyal kind, the WAR stage, which should begin in 7-ish years, after the Regional Consolidation Time is finished, or if it’s in the 3rd stage, the no-food-chain-left stage, where people are living off of greenhouses like Silent Running ( movie ) had, but on Earth…
The fundamental point, though, is that anybody doing what Hegseth’s doing, to bring the 2nd Coming … pouring “blood and destruction” into the world … is warring against that guy in the 3rd biblical-reference, above. )
Interesting Times!
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PS: I’m calling this pope Good Pope Leo, because from what I can see, he is: & I’m not Catholic.
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PPS: I just read the beginning of that chapter, & it looks-like that’s the stuff for the 2070’s, NOT for this end of “the tribulation”/“armageddon”/The Great Filter, so … no point in getting our hopes up.
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“How many divisions does the pope have?”
Joseph StalinPeter Hegseth
This fool Hegseth tried to divide by
zeropope 🙄
Pope Leo XIVPope Bob
