My wild guess: Is everyone now just using apps for every single little thing? So now using the mobile site is considered “fraud behavior” and using apps is “normal”? Like is this what their “fraud detection system” do now?
Like the same card works when you order it at the counter in store… why did the site reject it? it literally worked before on that same site…
Tries a bunch of different cards, also declines…
But those same cards do work on other sites…
Like…
I feel like when you
- Use their app
and - Create an account
you’re less likely to face problems…
But using mobile website + guest checkout is very likely to get flagged for some stupid reason…
The amount of sites claiming there’s suspicious traffic coming from my IP is getting ridiculous
Even the new version of my banking app seems bad in comparison to the old one. Sure looks nice, but having a white screen until the web app has downloaded isn’t really good design
Apps get more permissions than websites do. Websites being bad is on purpose to make you use the app so they can collect and sell more data.
Its enshittification
99% of the internet is trash. Pages bouncing all over while loading, constant cookie or login popups (even with various blockers), links not connecting, old long outdated content being pushed to the front of searches, junk AI slop non-answers articles or marketing lists about a problem vs actual detailed answers…
Then there are all the various billing systems for various marketplaces, that all wanna require memberships for one time sales, before they tell you the shipping cost.
And so so much more.
It’s all heavily dysfunctional and lame and not user friendly at all anymore.
I personally believe it is on purpose, to try and get you to download the app.
Then they can get way more of your data to sell.
I’m gonna have to agree. It’s been a growing trend for years and most sites don’t even give you half the features on the site.
The other day I went to place an order for a pizza on the Dominos website on my phone and it would crash every time I tried. Went to my PC and it worked perfectly first try. I’m not downloading your fucking app when I only eat your food, like, once a year.
It’s more about ads than data. It’s much more difficult for the average person to block ads on an app than on a website.
No, but only because I do not use apps, so do not have a reference to compare with. If I can’t do it on your website, I don’t do it.
If I can’t do it on your website, I don’t do it.
I guess you’re not gonna ever file for unemployment…
(ID.me has joined the chat)
Oh funny thing. My dad, a citizen of China, had to renew passport and China now forces you to use their app to do the renew… lol
Comming soon to the west… ETA 2026
ID.me is super painful, but you can verify yourself without a smartphone or any apps. I’ve done it.
oh?
I think they make you do a video call for “random” “additional verification” because it got flagged or something and the web thing is broken…
Yeah, I did the video call on a desktop PC.
Which country do you live in ?
Provider, dns settings, browser ,search machine, adblocker, extensions, VPN , all can cause delay or block on a website .
No problems here
USA
I always use real IP on Chrome for any money activity
So often I get a “card declined” bs
Like seriously, you can swipe it in the store and it works…
Yeah it’s by design
If you look at most apps they’re just wrappers around the websites. Usually they’re using the exact same domains for payment processing so I can only imagine that the payment details are 99% the same.
Personally I haven’t experienced an increase in card declinations on websites.
Same here. I’ve never had a card declined on a website. I’m decidedly anti-app and haven’t ever had a problem
But don’t they have to send that info to the card issuer?
Like don’t the merchant side have to log and send your IP addresses, what client (browser or App), and like every little info about you to the financial institutions so they can run it through their stupid “fraud prevention” system…
So I assume perhaps somewhere alone the line, some shitty AI assumed that “normal behavior” is “using the App”
(Just a wild guess, no clue how it works behind the scenes)
Nope. You can literally just send them the exact fields needed for processing a transaction.
I doubt it. I find it far more likely that the merchant is arbitrarily declining if they can’t scrape enough of your data to sell later…
Clothing sites nearly always make my phone (iPhone 13) run hot after a few minutes of browsing. Often the phone as a whole will start to get really slow (thermal throttling?) and I have to force quit the browser and maybe even restart iOS.
I have a 13 Mini and even Lemmy makes that happen sometimes but it’s gotten way worse for me since the update to iOS 26.
I agree completely! So many sites have forced me to download an app to accomplish what I need!
It’s mostly better than it was in the 90s when things first started trying to be more than just static text and images. But government websites are somehow even worse.
