Air superiority is supposed to deliver a quick triumph. But history has shown that promise to be written on the wind

To explore the roots of Donald Trump’s Iran military strategy and the pugnacious rhetoric of his defense secretary, Pete Hegseth, means looking back 105 years. In 1921, a year before Benito Mussolini and his blackshirts marched on Rome to launch the Fascist era, an Italian general named Giulio Douhet published The Command of the Air, proposing a revolution in warfare.

Victory in the future, he said, would no longer come from the grinding trench combat of the great war. Instead it meant large-scale aerial bombardments, targeting not just combatants but civilians and civilian infrastructure and logistics.

“[It] is much more important to destroy a railroad station, a bakery, a war plant, or to machine-gun a supply column, moving trains, or any other behind-the-lines objective, than to strafe or bomb a trench.

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      This right here.

      It’s always boots on the ground.

      The “win the war from the air” has been around since airplanes became a thing in WW1. They’ve been wrong every time.

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        There was a joke I read when I was in high school. Two tank commanders meet in Berlin at the end of WWII. One was a soviet tank commander and the other an american tank commander. One looks at the other and asks. Who won the air war?

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    Every war ever started was going to be over within a month, with an overwhelming victory, and the conquered people hailing them as liberators.

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    Avoiding saying that listening only to Israel and Mossad agents in cabinet forces full zionist supremacist government, not just syphlitic brain in chief, to destroy world.

    There is no way that anyone could ever think that assassinating the pope will not increase church attendance. To paraphrase Kissinger, Being Israel’s enemy is dangerous, being Israel’s devotee is stupid and deadly.

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    Nobody seduced these chucklefucks into anything.

    On behalf of Israel, Epstein and Maxwell honey-potted Trump and a bunch of other republicans, filmed them all kiddie-fucking so that Israel could say “Hey…you do what we say now, or else”.

    It wasn’t a seduction. It was an order.

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    The commander in chief can’t even bother to sit through briefings, I’m now under the impression the guy doesnt have any strategy at all, and instead thinks that all is well and Iran is just another stretch of desert that he can bulldoze like Israel did Gaza.

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      The strategy was bomb the shit out of them, and the people would rise up and take over their country, and worship Trump and Jesus.

      These dolts NEVER consider a second step, or a response, beyond the “Blowing Shit Up is Wicked Cool” stage. He was literally shocked when they started shooting back, even though we’ve watched Israel and Iran trade bombs for decades. He said “Nobody could have predicted it,” but literally EVERBODY predicted it.

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    Just look at those morons…

    And let it sink in for a moment that these two losers have just ended 80 years of globalism and free trade, killed thousands of people, forced millions more into poverty, planted the seeds for future wars and famines that will affect hundreds of millions more, likely enriched themselves in the process and give absolutely zero fucks about the suffering they’ve caused.

    And all I’m reading online is comments from Americans either explaining how sad they feel for the rest of the world or excusing themselves because they didn’t vote for them. Nobody fucking cares. Fix your shit, America…

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    “The delusion of easy victory from the air may have seduced the US into another war”

    stupid sexy flanders iranian leadership, looking so fuckable bombable.

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    They thought once the Khomeni was got rid of the “opposition” in Iran would take over.

    They believed all those fake AI videos that Israel produced.

    There is no “opposition” in Iran, outside of their own political system. Almost no one remembers the Shah, and those who do don’t remember him fondly.

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    With diligent planning and help from our allies and a clear objective victory from the air is achievable.

    We just had none of those things.

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      With diligent planning and help from our allies and a clear objective victory from the air is achievable.

      This has literally never been true, and there are no examples of this ever happening in history, besides maybe the only use of atomic bombs, on Japan. Pure delusion.

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      Help to do what, invade another country? Iraq and Afghanistan wasn’t enough?

      Iran in particular is designed as a state that can operate like terrorist cells. You can’t just destroy a central body and the government goes away.

      And again, why invade? Iran was on the brink of revolution, it’s state under financial pressure. It would have sorted itself out. But now, when the strictness of war is at play?

      Precision strikes have historically not worked as a regime killer. It make’a no sense to rely on a strategy that’s a proven failure.

      So why do it?

      I personally think it’s to solidify the Iranian regime, so that they become determined and focused once more. This will ensure that they stay a significant threat in the region and that the Israelis have an advantageous adversary to point their fingers at.

      But yeah, fuck all of this. It’s just so dumb.

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        Iran was on the brink of revolution, it’s state under financial pressure. It would have sorted itself out

        Starving a country via sanctions has never resulted in a revolution, except maybe South Africa. While the stated purpose is to cause enough misery within the population they overthrow the government, the real purpose is to weaken it so it can’t defend its people when we’re ready to bomb them.

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      Before all of that, you need to define your objectives, otherwise anything or nothing can be a ‘victory’.

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    I wonder if the Taiwan invasion goes south we’ll see the grauniad talk about China “being seduced into invading”.

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    Delusion is the operative to apply in anything coming out of the Whitehouse right now.

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    Not the U.S. - the retard pushing the buttons. Be better off if he was pushing daisies…