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    I just know one of those DOGE sneaky little fuckers has the digital files on one of their hard drives while they were there stealing data hand over fist under the guise of saving a few bucks.

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      And it’s been handed over to Musk, so he has some insurance and leverage.

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    The guards who were supposed to check on him that night were online shopping after receiving large bank deposits days earlier…

    If Biden had just investigated this shit when president it likely would have stopped trump. And he might have even been in jail before the last election.

    There’s just so many different single things he could have done to prevent this, but that geriatric fuck we all held our noses for seemed to intentionally make the least popular decision with Dem voters at every opportunity.

    We can’t afford to settle for someone like him again, we need someone that will actually fight like we need to.

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        100%. Trump had just launched a violent, deadly Insurrection a couple weeks before the Inauguration. Biden would have been fully legally and Constitutionally justified in stepping off the podium after his swearing in, and ordering the arrests of every MAGA in the Trump Administration as National Security Threats, which they were.

        They should have been shipped off to Guantanamo Bay for extensive interrogation, where they would be cut off from the media, their lifeblood. We would have uncovered the False Electors Plot (off to Gitmo for them), and the Stolen Classified Documents Scheme. All of them should have been denied bond, and remained in their dungeons, until they could be tried for the Sedition and Treason.

        But Biden decided to appoint The most feckless Republican in history to be his AG, who them dithered and slow-walked the cases, giving Trump a Two year head start in running out the clock.

        MAGA survived and stole back the power, entirely because Biden, and the cowardly Democratic legislature, allowed them to.

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        “No ItS tHe LeFIsTs and BeRniE BrOs”

        What we should campaign - pronouns. Because that’s what those 90,000 twitter bot accounts said.

        Not creating laws or upholding existing ones to prevent fascism. Not arresting powerful elite pedophiles. Not taxing the corporations or the rich. Not education. Not healthcare. Not affordable housing. Not ensuring people have food. Not climate. Not fixing flint Michigan. Not giving billionaires welfare.

        Fucking democrats man.

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          The democrats in power are the ones telling us progressives like Bernie and Mahmdani aren’t electable. But they’ve never had the opportunity. 2020 was a sham primary meant to prevent Bernie from winning.

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      Your conclusions about Biden are speculative and poorly supported. There is some validity to the unconfirmed and supposed bribes.

      I stand behind your fight. Lead us, since you know the way. /s

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        I suck I guess. I don’t think I should speak to anybody. I’m not meant to interact with my fellow man too much. This is my only social media account, it is recent. I may not be socialized enough to know how to interact appropriately with others. This was a failed experiment. I should have known better than to speak. I acquiesce to everybody’s opinions. I will be shutting down my account by the end of the day. It is obvious I do not belong here. Sorry for the ruckus.

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        Yeah, okay. You’ve annoyed me just enough, and I am autistic just enough, that I’m willing to dig into this. What claims are you arguing are speculative and poorly supported, exactly? I’ll see what I can find.

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            Damn man, I just got back from taking my wife and son to physical therapy. Now I plan to build a Meshtastic node with my son, teach him a few things. After that, my wife will be home and I’ll probably clean up a bit… maybe mop. Then we’re going to watch our TV show before bed, eventually rewrap my wounded finger, and go to sleep. I’ll only be on here for a few minutes at a time, like now as I’m shitting, providing half baked responses to whatever catches my attention. You sir, will get a fuller answer than I am able to provide now. Mostly likely, it will come on Monday while I’m busy procrastinating work items.

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              I like you. You are a sport. I too am taking shit as I speak to my phone. We have more in common than you realize.

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          I will certainly entertain an individual not afraid to think, and I too would like to delve deeper. Let us begin with my following conclusions to see if we can determine any flawed logic or blatant inaccuracies. I too, am patient, willing, and have plenty of time.

          –Causal conclusion: Inaction: Trump escapes accountability - The post tries to draw a straight line from Biden not investigating to Trump avoiding jail. This is a causal claim that assumes the evidence existed, was prosecutable, and that action would have yielded a specific outcome — none of which are established.

          –Character conclusion: Biden was deliberately self-sabotaging The word “intentionally” is doing a lot of heavy lifting. The post moves from “Biden made unpopular decisions” to “he did it on purpose,” without evidence of motive. Incompetence, institutional deference, and deliberate betrayal are very different things, but the post collapses them into one.

          –Prescriptive conclusion: Democrats need a different kind of candidate This is the post’s real destination — everything before it is framing to arrive here. The factual claims about the guards and Biden serve as emotional fuel to land on “we need someone that will actually fight.” It’s a political argument dressed in factual clothing.

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        Your conclusions about Biden are speculative and poorly supported

        Man, almost like you read them on social media and not a scientific journal…

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          Indeed, right? It does not mean I should not speak up for false conclusions. And what are you adding worth anything to this discussion?

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            You still dont understand any of this…

            You could have asked questions, and then I could have explained things and even provided sources.

            Instead of doing that, you want everyone to pre-emptively source everything like a scientific journal would do.

            Like, do you this everywhere?

            If someone told you today was Saturday, would start screeching “calendar! Calendar! Calendar!”

            At them until they pulled out a calendar?

            Why should everyone predict what you would require a source for, instead of you just asking for one when you wanted one like literally every single human before you has managed?

            Why are you the special one everyone else has to accommodate?

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              What’s the point of just speaking what’s on your mind when there is no or little validity to it? Oh, wait, I guess you just want to be fucking heard and validated on some random shower thoughts with no push back from reality. I’m sorry, I’m making you think.

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              Look man, I did not ask for a source. I actually read what you had to say. I did my research to validate my thoughts and concluded what I posted, period.

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                Look man, I did not ask for a source.

                Obviously…

                I’m saying that’s how a rational person would have handled this…

                Something like:

                Hey man, im not aware of any of that and couldn’t find anything on a search. Could you elaborate or point me in the right direction?

                Super basic stuff.

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                  And I did do my due diligence and I fact checked his post and I came to my own conclusions. I had no need to have a discussion with somebody who was obviously erroneous in their assertions. If people want to talk, sure, I can do that. But once somebody attacks me, all bets are off, and that is what happened. OPs reaction to my disagreement was an ad hominum, not the beginning of a constructive discussion or valid critiques on my thinking.

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                  I’m not one of those people, you may be. I simply stated that I did not agree with some things. If a discussion was to be had the original poster could have refuted my claims and then said discussion could begin. Instead, he was upset by my comment and chose to belittle me. And I don’t take that shit.

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        I’m here all day. Anybody got an actual point that they want to bring up and discuss? Let’s do this. Or you all just talking out your ass and downvoting because you have no fucking validity to your fucking existence.

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        Might not have been trump that pulled the trigger just given how comically huge the crowd of people who wanted him dead was.

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          No but we know the FBI testimony about Trump forcing a child’s mouth onto his cock and punching her for her laughing got diverted and not filed for nearly twice as long as it mandated to be filed, and finally got filed the day before Epstein was offed. That Trump discussed blackmail with Epstein during that time period, and that the feds shut down the investigation into Epstein’s properties… Someone in the federal government with enough power to enact it had to be the culprit, and they certainly had to be doing it at his behest

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            graphic details about raping a child aren’t exactly welcome or needed here, wtf dude.

            I don’t know why it has to be some vast conspiracy - a few bribes would be all anyone needed, and there’s no end of people to choose from with both the money and influence to arrange it. It might not have been trump that pulled the trigger because someone got there first. We’ll probably never know who it was - we just know at least one of the people that’s covering it up.

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              Yeah, that’s the best part about politics, people don’t like details… Just broad speculation without witness statements? You might as well go to sleep and read an elementary school history book in a decade then. Your discussing a person convicted of crimes pertaining to sex and trafficking of children, what I said didn’t even hit something rated above age 13

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                So for you the issue is that I’m not comfortable enough with child rape. Not that you’re so desensitized you think that description is somehow PG, nor the actual argument I made… just that I didn’t appreciate you included a graphic description of the internationally denounced horrific sex crimes in a discussion about a totally different meme crime.

                Yeah politics is just too soft these days.

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                  No I didn’t have any knowledge of you having an issue with information, you brought up that you had an issue with it, complained about it, and then said I had an issue with you having an issue.

                  I’m glad you’re not comfortable with rape, no one should be. Discussion about rape is something that should be expected in a discussion board about a rapist though.

                  If people don’t realize what these people did, they will always continue to walk free. One could say you are actually standing in the way of that witness getting justice because they came forward and put themselves out there to ensure people knew the atrocious acts that happened. And you want have people cover their ears. Making the majority unaware. Which while you were trying to have good intent, really helps protect those who performed those atrocities.

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        Honestly, it would have made a whole lot of sense for him to just kill himself. He had to have known what was in store, he wasn’t stupid. If he hadn’t been on suicide watch, and if the rest of the coverup wasn’t so ineptly transparent, the reasonable conclusion would be that yeah he 100% did himself in. Save everyone else the trouble and himself some potential discomfort, etc. But like… nah. This has been so stupidly poorly hidden.

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          But even him killing himself shouldn’t have been possible. The conspiracy isn’t murder. It’s enabling his opportunity to kill himself.

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            Maybe, yep! Or someone did go in and kill him, since it shouldn’t have been possible, and then they released footage with missing time, and so on. He might have been enabled to do it or he might have been outright killed or whatever other option, but I don’t know that the precise distinction even matters anymore given how obviously guilty someone is.

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              Right. Either way, there is a conspiracy. I think there is evidence that he did kill himself, but that isn’t evidence that there isn’t a conspiracy.

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    What documents, I wonder? It’s not like there’s going to be forms documenting “hey we killed this guy” that need to be shredded, we already have suspicious visitor logs and the medical records and so forth, like… what would they have wanted to shred? And why shred it there, instead of just taking it as part of the investigation and disappearing it like they did with so many other documents?

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      My guess is JE was writing in his cell, either letters to friends for help, or to Ghislane to release blackmail, or to the media to do the same. Once he was dead they destroyed any paper in his cell and any communications he’d had with anyone.