“This war has nothing to do with NATO. It’s not NATO’s war,” Stefan Kornelius, a spokesperson for German Chancellor Friedrich Merz, told reporters in Berlin on Monday. “NATO is a defensive alliance, an alliance for the defense of its territory,” he added.

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    “but…but…usually when I fuck things up someone sorts it out for me. Why won’t you fix my massive fuck up?”

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    “I would also like to remind you that the U.S. and Israel did not consult us before the war, and that Washington explicitly stated at the start of the war that European assistance was neither necessary nor desired,” Kornelius said.

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    Good answer. Fuck Benjamin and Donald Ducks war. They don’t even know why they did it. NATO is not for undocumented wars.

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      In fairness, they know exactly why they did it:

      For The Idiot: Israel needs our help to stop the 40-something-year-old “imminent” threat of an Iranian nuclear bomb (that was supposedly already stopped earlier last year when we “thoroughly destroyed” thir enrichment labs."

      For Bibi, it’s an opportunity to realize Israel’s version of manifest destiny, and to kill people he doesn’t like. Remember how everyone was all, “Boy I hope W doesn’t go nuclear on the middle east” after 9/11? 10/7 has had the same effect on Bibi, except he was predisposed for the merciless violence. He’s never seen these adversaries as “people.” W rarely thought about them at all.

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        Iranian nuclear bomb threat is real. It has been stopped 7 times by now, IIRC.

        If Iran ever gets nukes, they’re immovable. They can close Hormuz, destroy the oil production or bomb western allies in the region and the western world won’t be able to do anything with it.

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        There is a huge difference though. No terror attacks on USA, they already said they “nuked them back to zero” with the other operation. They couldn’t define what the end-goal is for operation fury.

        They don’t even agree on why they do this internally. And now they want other states to join in on a war happened because of Trumps small dick. I say fuck no. Let him have the consequences of this retarded administration for once. Let him dig his own grave.

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            Clearly the world should have let Serbia continue it’s genocide. /S

            People bitch when NATO stops a genocide and people bitch when NATO doesn’t.

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              UN exists for that purpose, NATO does not exist for that purpose.

              Tbf I don’t remember many occasions in which people were complaining because NATO should have entered a conflict to stop a genocide.

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              The United States is absolutely part of NATO.

              And Israel functions as a forward operating base, from which European military powers can control the Suez and the Eastern Mediterranean. It’s fundamental to the Western allied control of North Africa and the Middle East, even before you get into its function as a money laundering outfit and testing bed for military technology and policing strategy.

              European leadership has a closer relationship with Israeli military than Turkish military, as a point of comparison.

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    For now, I’d dare a bet on Merz getting back to sucking corpo cock

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    But not out of principle … our ships just don’t go that far without breaking down!

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        It is a bit of a meme in germany that our military equipment suffers from a lack of maintenance. Also there were a bunch of cases of new weapons systems just failing catastrophically or having huge security issues.

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          My country is a bit towards the south and nobody really knows how our ships still manage to float.

          We have ships where the entire navigation suite has been replaced with a commercial GPS.

          The guns are fired… Every now and then. Sparingly. We still have ammunition from the 70’s in stock. Some times we even manage to misplace equipment.

          Yet somehow we’re considered as the reliable ally, although a bit… wierd.

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            We have ships where the entire navigation suite has been replaced with a commercial GPS.

            Honestly, that’ll do just fine in 90% of cases.

            Only issues are:

            • What do you do if some country has maliciously turned off or disabled the GPS satellites?

            • The commercial GPS unit probably isn’t very EMP-resistant, so it might quickly be disabled if EMPs start going off all over the place … as would happen in a nuclear war.

            But as long as you’re not fighting anybody capable of turning the entire GPS system off and the war hasn’t gone nuclear, it should probably be fine.

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              Sincerely? I’d expect to see astrolabes or sextants being pulled from storage.

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        “Bedingt abwehrfähig” is the bureacratic term the government uses to explain that the German military, in particular the equipment, is broken beyond any hope of repair.

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        Germany sold some submarines to Greece that were leaning over on one side out the factory

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    In the words of Knorkator

    Geh aus dem Weg, du Arschgesicht

    Eh mann, du stinkst nach Klo

    Gib lieber auf, das schaffst du nicht

    Und nun zurück in den Zoo

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    Are we going have that brain-dead ‘freedom’ fries bullshit again? Is this really going to be a repeat of 2003 Iraq? Seeing the limitless supply of brain rot in the US, probably we will.

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      It’s gonna be a lot of foods: freedom fries, freedom burger, freedom sauvignon blanc.