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    unfortunately another dude trying to appeal to moderates and conservatives, foolishly.

    What? This is a progressive who vowed not to take AIPAC money. How exactly is or was he trying to appeal to conservatives?

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      I really doubt this person is being genuine, I’m fairly certain I remember them complaining about progressives calling out moderate bullshit not too long ago, so unless a username got hijacked or something I think they’re just stirring up shit

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        You are not mistaken. I have them tagged due to that same behavior. Some Lemmy clients allow tagging of users. I know voyager is a popular option that does. You might already know that and just didn’t think their previous comments warranted tagging, but just fyi.

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          I don’t use user tagging because it’s a per-client thing and I switch between Voyager on my phone and the web client on my desktop.

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      Talerico mixes gospel into his speaches, he is the “unapologetically christian” candidate who polled very strongly with Whites and Independents.

      But that doesn’t matter now, he is the candidate capable of bringing progress to Texas while no others are.

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        Whether or not you appreciate his candidness about his beliefs, he’s talking about true Christian values rooted in empathy and compassion. Jesus was woke.

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          Okay cool but if he could keep his bullshit sky fairy beliefs out of governance then the world will be a better place.

          Some of us don’t need fear of punishment to be good people.

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                That’s how you make more flies. The idiom is about catching them, not attracting more.

                More in the honey means less flying around. It’s a flytrap.

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              For a supposed supporter of Talarico you seem pretty annoyed by me talking about the potential barriers keeping him from winning.

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                You seem to have a personal issue with use of Christian ideas in political discussion, you even said in your first comment he’s the best chance for a dem win in Texas.

                Remember that if you actually read the bible, Jesus was a revolutionary and would be more or less a communist by today’s standards. Christian churches have often been active in movements for liberation, in the US civil rights movement (MLK was a minister) and in Latin America for two examples close to home.

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                  I was raised catholic, I’ve read more of the bible, and different versions, than the vast majority of Christians.

                  It’s conservative bullshit used to torture and oppress for thousands of years, from its origins to its ending.

                  Given the current Christofascist federal admin headed by a literal child rapist, a puppy murderer, and a drunkard advocating literal death or exodus of Palestine, i am extremely apprehensive to it yes.

                  And that is a very real problem for us trying to unite the left under singular candidates.

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                    Quite the opposite, progressive Christians are the cure for Christofascism. Like it or not, Christians make up about 2/3 of Americans, and they aren’t just going to abandon their faith. Showing them an alternative outlet for their faith doesn’t enable Christofascism, it actively undermines it.

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                Did I say I support him? I don’t know anything about him, but I think it is useful to have a progressive going after the Christian vote, which is a thing whether you like it or not.

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            Fascists love it when leftists act like intolerant jackasses or throw purity politics into things.

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              Everyone should vote for him in the general. I’m looking for some cinstructive discussion on how to make that happen when he appears as the blue tie version of the white christofascism parasitizing the federal government.

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                His message actively subverts the maga nationalist monopoly on the christian narrative.

                He calls them out for what they are (hypocrites) and promotes a more genuine reading of scripture (in which Jesus was a woke socialist agitator with empathy for the marginalized and disenfranchised).

                You’re not going to win back the christian vote (a significant bloc) from the far-right if you’re promoting this “christians can’t be leftist” narrative. That plays right into the far-right’s hands.

                Also, he refuses AIPAC money so don’t call him a fucking zionist.

                He’s literally one of the best things that could happen in Texas politics.

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                  This guy gets it. Also, many liberals are religious and some leftists are. Playing the edgy atheist stereotype only empowers the godless false pharasee evangelicals.

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                You aren’t looking for constructive fuck communicating the way you are, you’re looking for a fight.

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        Talerico has stayed his Christianity leads him to demand separation of church and state, to support reproductive health, to embrace refugees.

        If his religion leads him to all the things I want, then, the most concern I have is keeping an eye on him.

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        he is the “unapologetically christian” candidate who polled very strongly with Whites and Independents.

        Sure, but that just means he’s a guy who appeals to less progressive/more conservative people. Now putting that in the forefront is a decision, but that’s different from modifying one’s policies to appeal to conservatives. The latter is what’s foolish; the former is the equivalent of accepting free lunch.

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          Harris was also very progressive on policy and appealed to conservatives in perception and people give her unending shit for it.

          I think what happened to Cuomo and the popularity of Bernie Sanders should be ample evidence that appealing to conservatives is the losing strategy.

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            I supported Bernie because he appealed to me as a progressive. If conservatives came along they were welcome to.

            I have never been to New York, but if I lived there I would have voted for mamdani because he appeals to me as a progressive.

            I support Talerico because of his progressive stances first, his Christian presentation is a nice bonus, and I wanted a candidate who disavows Aipac and Israel.

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            Harris was also very progressive on policy and appealed to conservatives in perception and people give her unending shit for it.

            What fucking world do you live in? Harris’s policy was to pander to the centrists and “moderate right,” conservatives hated her because they thought she was a “radical leftist communist liberal,” whatever tf that means, and people gave her unending shit for being a milquetoast establishment corporate dem with no firm stance on any progressive agenda, and for supporting Israel.

            Literally all three statements in your first sentence are the opposite of the truth.

            Oh, and Cuomo was a pig who stood no chance against any decent candidate. The fact that he was an establishment corporate dem running against a progressive populist underdog in an election year favoring progressive politics was secondary to being a ghoul.

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              Taxing the Rich into the ground to fund healthcare and education for all is as progressive as it gets.

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                I don’t disagree with you there, and I did vote for Kamala Harris, but your characterization of her campaign was simply divorced from reality.

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              She planned an unrealized capital gains tax on the rich, removing the ceiling on social security taxes, forgiving student debt, expanding medical coverage, etc.

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                And how many of those are unfulfilled and/or watered down Biden promises? Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me. She did nothing to make people believe she was actually going to do these things; promising to put Republicans in her cabinet certainly didn’t. Campaigning on fracking certainly didn’t. Dickriding Israel certainly didn’t.

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                  What better way to signal progressive policy than make Liz Cheney your hype man.

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                  The amount of accomplishments of the Biden admin doesn’t fit on a single page, but on the topic of taxes the 2017 Republican tax bill would have expired this year. I’m sorry to hear you don’t believe in taxing the rich. Renewables and environmental protection grew more under Biden than any predecessor.