My favorite will always be wartime foods. Shit on a shingle and spam on rice are fucking amazing.
Seriously. I love Korean army stew.
Isn’t chicken Parmesan technically a New York dish?
TIL the chicken parmie is from NY. Although we Aussies have it served with hot chips, salad, and lager, instead of with pasta.
Partner (UK) and I (US) talk about this a lot. I felt this way, but she pointed out to me that the US is astonishingly good at taking dishes from other countries and putting a spin on them, such as changes in texture or combinations. Once I started to pay attention I agreed.
We fry it, add fat, carbs, and/or add sugar.
Done.
Mmm, acorn bread and beaver cheese.
You guys milk beavers?
Hamburgers, meatloaf, gumbo, and all sorts of southern food is American.
*Edit. Some of you think hamburgers weren’t an American creation. Y’all are incorrect. The humburg meat was never put between bread. The sandwich hamburger is a US creation.
Hamburger were invited in Athens Texas. Just go ask that city they advertise that it was a man from that town at the World Fair in the 1930’s.
Dude, Hamburgers are literally named after the non-US city they originally came from…
But I have to admit that the refinement to its delicious present day form is an American achievement!That’s a Hamburg steak. Not a hamburger, since there’s no bun
Na, buddy. You’re wrong. The Hamburg thing is just about a mashed up piece of meat. Not the hamburger. Putting the meat in the bun to make a sandwich is 100% US like 125 years ago.
That’s quite disputed.
One of the more likely theories states that the bun idea together with the ground meat steak originated in Hamburg, where it was a variant of the common “Rundstück warm”, which has been around since 200 years ago or so.It’s less disputed than most food origins. I looked up your rundstuck warm food. Dunno why you’re trying to make that argument, because because that sure looks nothing like a hamburger, nor does it get eaten like one. That it didn’t use ground beef aside, it being covered in gravy is a dead giveaway.
Literary all of those dishes have origins outside of the US lol
You’re literally wrong. A hamburger as a sandwich is a US creation. So is gumbo. Literally do a 2 minute search about it before “thinking” you know what you’re talking about. Lol
So does all human society, this is a stupid argument.
I find it fascinating that almost half of the world has their own dumpling (ie. a small ball of a cheap source of protein and fat held together by a wrapping of flour dough; cooked by boiling in water).
I bet if you they would all dispute the origin of that food item.
My point is that US people tend to claim ownership to a lot of things that were not invented there. I’m all for sharing culture and food and transforming them to something new, but don’t claim they are your invention.
Like as american as apple pie is an expression for a dish from Germany and the Netherlands.
My point is that nationalism is poisoning society and destroying the ecosystem, and this discussion isn’t helping.
That I completely agree with and concede the point.
I have to think of a lot of fish dishes too. Since we only have them here. I don’t think Walleye is from anywhere else. Maybe I’m wrong.
Walleye isn’t a preparation, it’s an animal.
Preparing pineapple or mango isn’t native either and included in these comparisons.
I didn’t say anything about nativeness. Also seems like you forgot to finish your sentence, I’m really not sure what you are trying to say here.
In this thread: Europeans being casually xenophobic about immigrants in The Americas and the dishes they bring from home, thus proving this new community’s point.
Anyway while I’m on my European slander streak, let me tell you a story: One time i was staying in a hostel in Montreal and there was a French guy (like, a l’hexagon French, not Quebecois) there. He unironically said to me “A single tomato from France tastes better than this shit you call poutine.” That quote lives rent free in my head.
Also you wanna know why he was in Montreal? Cuz he couldn’t get a job in France. peak comedy
Cuz he couldn’t get a job in France. peak comedy
Must have been replaced by all the doctors and engineers that have been imported into France.
Europeans being casually xenophobic about immigrants in The Americas and the dishes they bring from home, thus proving this new community’s point.
No shit. Orange chicken was invented by a Chinese-American chef in Hawaii. Chicken alfredo was invented in the US by combining the Italian dish fettuccine al burro with cream and chicken. And breakfast tacos were an adaptation of a Mexican dish tacos de guisados, except Texans used eggs, instead of yesterday’s stewed leftovers. (Also, I’m not sure the OP and community admin even gets the point.)
American is not just a single culture, it’s a melting pot of a bunch of different cultures. Same goes for Canada, just with a different mix of dominant cultures. American food is a reflection of that, sometimes remixing the idea so much that it turns into something else. Cajun food wouldn’t exist without a mixture of French and American influences.
America may be constantly battling racism and xenophobia internally, but we recognize it for what it is: a shit behavior that should should be excised. European and Eastern cultures like Japan are so casually racist and xenophobic that they don’t even recognize it in themselves.
The Axis powers came to be out of a combination of elements, but xenophobia was the biggest one. Germany got their shit together in the end, after brutal period of being forcefully separated themselves, and a period of self-reflection. Italy and Japan? Yeah, not so much.
So, to the OP: I hope your new community isn’t yet another outlet to be racist.
Recognizing foods from other cultures is a very new phenomena, for us families, and in europe. Tacos were unheard of in a 1950 white household. In the uk the bbc did a joke piece showing Italians harvesting pasta off the pasta tree and most people that saw it believed it.
Ahh, the humble French tomato… which originated from the Americas…
Italians have the world convinced they invented the tomato. People will get violently disagreeable absolutely convinced the Tomato originated with Italians.
The stereotypical smoking French person wouldn’t exist either.
POUTINE??? THAT SHIT IS GASSSS!!!
Some people shouldn’t have opinions.
“Poutine” makes it sound so fancy, even though it’s just Loaded Fries.
What about pumkin pie?
Native American: I am a joke to you?
Fun fact: orange chicken was invented by Hawaiian Chinese guys who ran the Panda Express in Honolulu. They wanted to create a dish that reflected the sort of flavors that were popular at Chinese restaurants in Hawai’i. So it’s not an “American” concoction. It’s rooted in the culture of Chinese in Hawai’i, who were invited to live and work in Hawai’i back in the kingdom days.
in Hawai’i. So it’s not an “American”
Is Hawaii not in the U.S.? Or was it not in the U.S. at the time of the early Panda Express?
Pizza was invented in the US. By an italian immigrant, but it still counts.
Now do Chop Suey.
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Last panel gets it wrong, though.
Rest of the world totally thinks that there is such a thing as original American food:
High-caloric, hyper-processed junk containing no significant nutritional value but much too much fat, fructose sirup and carcinogenic substances.
That, and watery beer.I had bread that tasted like a cake, and the Pop-Tarts made my teeth jump out of my mouth due to the amount of sugar they were able to concentrate in it. Can’t recommend.
Both 100% American.
The people were very nice though, so that was something.
AFAIK, jambalaya, and gumbo are both USAmerican foods.
There’s also whatever the fuck the Midwest is doing, but we don’t talk about them.
Edit: but but
also barbecue and grilling culture is huge out here. not always fond of the US but damn I love a good cookout
l don’t dispute that (and also that they are probably great - had neither so far, as they are largely unknown here).
It’s just that nobody outside of the States thinks of these when they hear “US food”.
Also: The jello salad is hilarious!
Hadn’t it been a wikipedia link, I would have thought it to be you trying to pull my leg. :-)They’re delicious, and I make them a few times a year.
Yeah, the jello salads are… Something. The sweet ones are great! Fruits, nuts, whipped cream, all of that in jello is fine. It’s when people decide to throw celery and hot dogs in lime jello that it gets more than a little weird.
I just remembered that we have a very similar traditional dish in my home region (although only in the hefty variant with meat and/or vegetables):
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sülze
And I also have to say, Schweinskopfsülze (pig head in aspic) is not as bad is looks, but certainly is an acquired taste… :-)
There is also the American national dish of cereal (frequently meaning lumps of coloured sugar mixed with lumps of different-coloured sugar).
Cereal was made by old man kellog to feed to his insane asylum inmates at his battle creek, mi sanitorium, as a low protein food that would lessen the masturbation of the inmates.
He put mittens on some they could not get off so they did not whack it at night.
I dont eant to hear anybody shit on our cereal while this abomination is still a thing:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hagelslag
Dudes be eating sprinkles for breakfast and shit on our cereal? Gtfo.
But only if the colors are so vibrant you’d start to believe that you’d been drugged
Alfredo pasta was invented in Italy.
The US invented its own dish and gave it the same name.
America has distinctive quick breads like southern biscuits and flapjacks, many desserts were invented by the Pennsylvania dutch (like doughnuts and approximately a billion cakes and pies), several excellent kinds of whiskey, a galaxy of unique bbqs, Cajun food, distinctive east and west coast deli styles, a distinctive style of fried chicken, chocolate chip cookies, deep dish pizza, french dip sandwiches…
The one I love is German Chocolate Cake. Invented in either Pennsylvania, or New York, the prole’s last name was German.
Isn’t that just all the news communities, even global news?
Fusion, mostly. Latino coworker from Texas told me Burritos are neither Mexican nor American, but a beautiful Texas border food fusion. Anecdotal, but the guys son is a professional chef.
All food is some kind of fusion. Humans have been cooking for hundreds of thousands of years, and very few communities have been truly isolated in human history. People going on about “true” this, and “authentic” that, just don’t know shit about cooking or culture.
This. Personal favorite example: Tomatoes didn’t appear in Italian food less than a century before modern English started forming. They’re an American vegetable.
Migration and transplanting of cultures has massively increased in the last 100 years though… Shit changed a lot slower in the past.
I think people vastly underestimate how much people moved around in the past. Not just from mass migrations, but also individuals just ending up in places. An army was basically a moving city making it’s way around for years if not decades. New trade routes opening often meant people moving across the world to either end just to handle logistics. A fad started by one individual eventually turns into a staple, a tradition, a culture.
If you went back to the time of Leonardo DaVinci you wouldn’t find tomatoes anywhere in Italy. Tomatoes are indigenous to Central America yet today it seems almost impossible to imagine Italian food without tomatoes! The introduction of tomatoes to Italian cooking might’ve been more gradual but the transformation was far greater than anything we see now.
Cali has amazing not quite Mexican food too.
Yeah, I mean when you have a European power colonize a native area, then the locals take over for a while before the noisy neighbor to the north re-colonizes it, then rebuilds on the labor of people that were already there (Surprise! You’re Americans now!), there’s going to be some back-and-forth culinary Frankensteining going on. For example; the California burrito.
What’s in the California burrito that the natives wouldn’t have made? Potatoes are from Peru.
Mexico has breakfast tacos at home, they’re called Tacos de Canasta
Same with the argument of “we need to deport them to preserve our culture”. America has always been mix up of cultures and has a vastly different culture from state to state and city to city. New york wouldn’t have been the world renowned city it is if it didn’t have its diversity.
I hope this is just american whining about cultural appropriation again. Food evolved based on which culture cook it and that country’s flavour, and chance is, some of your favorite food that you think is originated from one place is actually a fusion of another food. As a chinese that isn’t originated from china(and not from the west), the chinese food i loved the most is actually just fusion made using local ingredients for local tastebud, not because some people decided to ruin someone else culture.
I recommend watching this video from Jennifer Lee: https://youtu.be/U6MhV5Rn63M
It talks about the history of Chinese food in America it’s great. Echoes some of the flavours you’ve experienced with some fun context.
