Newly released Department of Justice documents show that investigators reviewing surveillance footage from the night of Jeffrey Epstein’s death observed an orange-colored shape moving up a staircase toward the isolated, locked tier where his cell was located at approximately 10:39 p.m. on Aug. 9, 2019.

That entry in an observation log of the video from the Metropolitan Correctional Center appears to suggest something previously unreported by authorities: “A flash of orange looks to be going up the L Tier stairs — could possibly be an inmate escorted up to that Tier.”

It also appears, according to an FBI memorandum, that reviews by investigators led to disparate conclusions by the FBI and those examining the same video from the Department of Justice’s Office of Inspector General.

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    Can never rule out the christofacists being stupid on a completely unfathomable level but:

    1. Other documents have raised question over whether the ligature markings on his neck even match the noose he was found in. This strongly suggests a real-ish autopsy was conducted rather than a fake one. And, contrary to what Swordfish taught us, it is REALLY hard to make a body double that would stand up to that level of scrutiny
    2. epstein’s entire schtick was power and manipulation of some of the most influential people on the planet. He would not be quietly sitting in a hotel room in an embassy or whatever for years
    3. Much like with all the “trump stole the election” conspiracy theories, NOTHING has actually leaked out regarding this. Which violates the first rule of conspiracies.
    4. epstein was, allegedly, killed to silence him. And all the people who would be involved in a secret extraction to this level are the kind of people who would likely have wanted to silence epstein in the first place. Why keep him alive? ESPECIALLY if his legion of rapeable children aren’t around?

    Odds are VERY good he was murdered. At most, one could maybe argue that he was spirited away only to be killed elsewhere so he wouldn’t talk. But at that point… why not just kill him in his cell?

    I’ll also add on: epstein’s death is one of those focal points for this “scandal”. It is also the safest to manufacture easily refutable conspiracy over. So be very careful of over-fixating. I mean… just look at 9-11. All the idiots insist “jet fuel can’t melt steel beams!” and we all mock them for it. But it did a great job of distracting the public as a whole from questions of how preventable it was and who actually bankrolled it.

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        The first rule is basically that the more people required to be involved in a conspiracy, the less likely that someone doesn’t eventually leak something.

        I will note that this works for a lot of the more dubious ones, we never went to the moon, the earth is flat, etc.

        But I will also note that any competent intelligence type agency compartmentalizes as much information as possible, so that very few people actually know enough to put together a ‘big’ story.

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          The first rule is basically that the more people required to be involved in a conspiracy, the less likely that someone doesn’t eventually leak something.

          Manhattan Project

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      There are two theories beginning to appear everywhere right now: that Epstein worked for Russia and that Epstein is still alive. Both smell very much like deliberate attempts to muddy the waters and confuse people into giving up on the truth. We shouldn’t let ourselves be distracted. Epstein is almost certainly dead and probably worked for Mossad, perhaps with some freelance blackmail for others too. And the main issue now is to get the rest of the files released and unredact the names and crimes of the perpetrators whom Trump’s DOJ is determined to protect.

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      Alright since you brought it up. My stance is that jet fuel CAN’T melt steel beams but they sure as hell can weaken them. However my own logic prevents me from accepting a bottom starting pancake collapse when the heat is at the top. Wouldn’t that have been a top-down pancake at the very least?

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        It didn’t start at the bottom, but once the section above started to move, weight+inertia would begin to cause failures all up and down the lower section, mostly at the top but certainly along other points, as all of them are now under more stress than they were ever designed to withstand.

        At those levels of force, welds, rivets, hell the beams themselves were no match; and the longer it went on the faster it got, and the weaker the lower structure became, in a run-away effect.

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        It collapsed at the point of impact where the steel weakened, then that crushed everything below it. The evidence is all over and has been for almost 25 years now. Just watch the videos.

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        Didn’t it start from the top down? It’s been 25 years but I watched it live and that’s what I remember seeing.

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          Who you’re going to believe? Some rando on lemmy or your lying eyes?

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            Well it has been a long time. I’d trust then more if I wasn’t relying on a long faded memory. Though admittedly a powerful one.

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        What about:

        The planes did the damage and they didn’t need to rig the towers with c4, but they ignored the plot when they learned about it a month before hand and only shot down the planes that were going to “important” places.