Invoking Vaclav Havel, he said it was time to stop pretending that what the western powers called a rules-based order was not a self-serving sham.
“Great powers can afford, for now, to go it alone. They have the market size, the military capacity and the leverage to dictate terms. Middle powers do not. But when we only negotiate bilaterally with a hegemon, we negotiate from weakness. We accept what’s offered. We compete with each other to be the most accommodating,” he said
“Being a happy vassal is one thing, being a miserable slave is something else,” he said.
“If you back down now, you’re going to lose your dignity, and that’s probably the most precious thing you can have in a democracy, it’s your dignity.”
“Being a happy vassal is one thing, being a miserable slave is something else,” he said.
If this doesn’t sum up modern resignation I don’t know what does. Capitalism sure does create a bunch of cucks the wealthy get to manipulate. But hey, if you put your foot down you can be a happy vassal. WTF.
The only solution to fascism is to move towards socialism. Anyone who tells you otherwise is fucking lying to you.
This asshole finally admits what I have been flamed for saying on this website, but he only says it after a whole load of “fuck socialism” beforehand, because SOCIALISM IS THE SOLUTION. HE IS THE POISON. He does not want you to have the cure.
Rule of law is fucking FAKE. It always HAS been. Any semblance of comfort or security you get from the idea that you have rights and legal protections IS A PHANTOM.
YOU NEED TO JOIN A UNION, NOW.
YOU NEED TO ORGANIZE, NOW.
YOU NEED TO ARM YOURSELF, NOW.
There’s a lot of unions that are literally white supremisist gangs and there’s literally no accountability for that fact. I know because I’m blackballed for standing up to union officers threatening to lynch black apprentices on the job in California so until that is fixed “join a union “ as a blanket statement is ignorant
Not trying to contradict anything you said, I am interested in socialism as a model, generally speaking, but I don’t know much about its economic or social model.
As someone very close to socialist countries that have done rather poorly, I have a few questions about it.
What exactly is pushing people and producers from tending towards mediocrity in socialism? I hate capitalism and how it affects us culturally, but the one thing I think it can succeed at (when monopolies are properly combatted), is using competition to push for excellence. Of course, I know nowadays it’s not the case because anti-trusts have been gutted so we’re full of monopolies and duopolies everywhere. But generally speaking, why would anyone make any effort for excellence under systems that don’t reward it or punish mediocrity?
I’m not saying we should trend towards capitalism where mediocrity is punished by starvation or death by exposure to the elements, but isn’t mediocrity, lack of consistent maintenance of common goods, etc kind of a huge problem of public and social governments etc?
They seem to be very good at equalising the playing field and providing for the needy, but it seems like persistent deterioration of common goods, infrastructure, etc is a pervasive issue in most communist governments that have been tried. Which leads to a lot of losses, inefficiencies and oversight. How would a new socialist model address these common issues? They’re not minor things that should just be hand-waved away either.
The US was perfectly positioned to adopt socialism about 15-30 years ago. The boomers blew that right out of the water, though. “More for me and mine, and fuck everyone else” according to them.
Right absolutely gathering all the heads of all the countries together and telling them “what we need now is unfettered socialism” is going to go over SO WELL. They’ll definitely listen to that. In that Canada isn’t socialist and neither are they.
But maybe if you post bigger it’ll happen, idk
The speech is here. It’s really good. It is perhaps the most incisive and important speech I’ve ever seen from a modern politician, and I think it may be considered something of a turning point in the future.
I have seen this speech many times. I think it is going to go down in history, as the speech that correctly identified the end of the american golden age. It is the first important speech in the western world, that was given not by an american for freedom and order, but against america for freedom and order.
America has literally never been a force for freedom nor peace and anyone who believes as much is a victim of propaganda.
Absolutely. It’s insane.
Wow, someone who pays attention. Cheers!
Indeed a great speech… hopefully it’s not just words
Here is a version with better quality audio
Carney has always spoken like this when dealing with chaotic situations. He did when he led the Bank of Canada during the '08 financial crisis and again during Brexit when he led the Bank of England.
He doesn’t lie or use platitudes when speaking on important issues … which is why Canadians are hopeful we can survive the current maelstrom.
We really need to be strong in this. When Trump starts to turn his attention to Canada again, I want all of Europe to back up Canada the same way Canada backed up Greenland. We can’t let this shit keep going.
This would be rousing to me if Carney weren’t an international banker who’s a-okay with runaway capitalism taking over his country in the same way it’s decimated the US.
The Canadian banking system is different, by design, which left Canada relatively unscathed during the financial meltdown. Guess who Canada’s central banker was during all that? Mark Carney.
He fucked the UK up pretty well when he was at the Bank of England
Yeah Canada and the US are really the same. Sure buddy. Steaming hot pile of take right there.
You’re right.
I should give the international banker who is currently doing his best to run his country into the ground more credit because he stepped up to the podium and said nice things.
I’m sure you’ll forgive me, but I rather think that given what he has accomplished in his first year, his overall skillset and deep knowledge in relevant fields, and his preeminent experience at the highest levels of economic and strategic discourse, he is much more trustworthy on the topics of trade and economic diversification, defense and sovereignty and affordability - and far better suited to protect and progress our country away from US dependence - than you are, random internet stranger who has none of the equivalent skills, experience or access to critical information from expert advisors.
But that’s just me. I prefer to pragmatically consider my options with some humility and respect for expertise, rather than pooling together all the insight of a high school bong session.
Imagine someone throwing their trust at a capitalist unironically. Nevermind, you don’t have to because murderaxeman is here!
Who do you put your trust in when it comes to making economic and political decisions in the face of a generational existential threat to our sovereignty, as well as a massive, rapid and necessary restructuring of our economy?
To keep the status quo of ever widening income gaps and growing fascism a banker of course.
Revolution requires people not invested in keeping a system that serves wealthy and their favorite proxy, the corporation, exclusively.
I watched the speech. It’s one of the most profound, intelligent speeches I’ve ever heard a politician give.
Agreed, we should always expect such coherence and conciseness from our leaders. Up your game Starmer!
Nah here in the US we went a different way and it’s working out great!
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I’m glad you’re enjoying it 😁
I’d like to meet the person who wrote it.
Carney himself wrote it. He’s attended Davos 30+ times so is quite comfortable speaking to the rich rabble.
I guarantee you Carney was heavily involved in writing it. Nobody writes that speech alone, but he isn’t the kind of guy to leave it to others.
There were mentions that he wrote his own speech from others. From what I understand it’s probably true since that would be his regular type of conference as a head banker previously. I’ll be honest haven’t listened to it or know a lot about Carney but this is what I’ve gleened in comments about his speech. Guess I knew about his banker credentials before and he helped us through the 08 crisis which Canada went through decently. Though I had no idea who he was until the leader of the liberal party
From everything I’ve read about his speech, which I will listen to at some point, makes me feel better with him in charge if we aren’t going to be more progressive.
I hate that we have nukes, our government literally fired all the reasonable people and put in corrupt retards incharge. Remember when Trump asked about nuking the hurricane? There’s no asking next time he remembers about nukes, all these retarded loyalist will just yes man us to world end.
…what were the first and second paths?
First path is align with great power #1.
Second path is align with great power #2.
Third path is non alignment / continuing to pursue multilateralism amongst middle powers.
He wisely never refers to the US or China directly in the speech.
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Isn’t this what the EU worked out in the 80s. A bunch of small countries have a bunch of small voices. Together they’re a world force.
Trade unions worked in out before them.
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