Please, help us to better understand how we can effectively funnel reddit users into Lemmy across all demographics, leveraging the average Lemmings advantages like expertise in automation, ai and bots?
What tactics/strategies do you propose? Can we automate the process? Can we somehow add ai to make it more fashionable?
Create content and participate to make Lemmy more attractive.
Best I can do is talk about Linux.
Which distro?
Installing tumbleweed rn
Great distro by the way.
I wish 😭
It refuses to install… I got a dell vostro 3468 running on legacy BIOS. I’m coming from windows and there’s an NTFS partition full of data I’m trying to preserve…
The guided partitioning errors out(usually runs out of space, and no packages can continue installing so they throw errors), and using the expert partitioning throws a couple of grub errors at the end when it’s installing grub
It was really good when I last tried it on another device
You can start out with something light, and then install packages as you go.
I generally do a barebones install and then install individual packages. By default a lot of packages are installed - most of them you don’t need.
And also checkout
. It is a lighter version of Opensuse and has the calmares installer. (Tumbleweed is the Gecko rolling version)
The MBR layout was the issue
When I wiped the drive, everything fixed itself!
Loving tumbleweed so far
The archetypical answer should be obvious
by the way
All my homies use Hannah Montana Linux
Real OGs peer beyond the *nix veil and graduate to TempleOS
Baby’s first OS. The actual OGs graduate back to SLS.
NixOS, BTW
Slackware, forever Slackware.
In German.
Je peux peut-être aider en suggérant une deuxième choix ?
Un petite peu.
So more OpenSuSE, gotcha.
That’s that Windows program the nerds use, yeah? Do you like it?
What’s a program? Is that a kind of app?
What’s a computer?
The thing you use to access the facebooks.
That works for me
This is the way
Then do that. There are many Linux communities on Lemmy, participate in them and try to make them a better place by contributing useful comments and posts.
He’s making a joke, because if you look at /all communities it can be like half posts from various Linux communities at times
I never have anything interesting to say
I think you just disproved your own point my friend, that was fascinating.
you think what all these idiots are saying is interesting?
just yap its more enjoyable that way
In my case I found that creating a community that was missing here, then regularly populating it with content, has worked wonders. That it was not just a good way to get myself engaged here, as well as to grow the Fediverse, but to attract users from Reddit and other places given a bit of cross-posting.
Seriously, I’m not sure how many people understand that right now, given that new content is generated relatively slowly across the FV, that any new community putting quality stuff out there is going to get a *hugely* larger proportion of eyes on it. That’s compared to similar communities on Reddit, FB, etc, in which smaller / newer communities tend to get completely drowned out in the ALL streams.
My own niche community (Euro graphic novels) already has 350+ subscribers in less than 90 days. Even for Reddit that’s a nice jump-start and growth. Which is why I urge people to jump on this opportunity now, because eventually it’s probably going to dry up.
Indeed, maybe it would be good to get this message out to people on Reddit, FB, etc who always wanted to start a sub/community, but the opportunities were ‘all filled up’ already.
Don’t worry about user numbers. Worry about developing niche communities here. With different personalities. That’s the magic to make a garden grow.
It doesn’t matter how niche, it matters how active we are. I’ve been bored by “hot” for a while since it’s just 1h old trash, and “active” just leads me to day old threads. I want to participate in 4 hour old threads that have a lot of comments and a lot of activity and people still replying.
Top 6 hours?
Top 6 hours will only bring me the most upvoted across the site, not the most active for a community or anything like that. On Reddit, I used to get posts with a couple dozen comments for super niche communities that I’m subbed to on the hot filter. It was fun seeing those pop up and be active and highlighted on my feed.
There is a new sorting (Best?) on the way with the new major version of the Lemmy backend, that takes a community’s size into consideration. That should solve this issue.
Wait, aren’t you just using active and checking in and replying every few days when you got a bit of time spare? 🤔
Now we’re active a minute ago
Agreed. We need both.
Even a day old posts have many active users.
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We owe it all to the poet Morn. What a character.
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Exactly! This isn’t about monetization, so raw numbers don’t matter. As long as a given community has enough active members to promote continued use and provide its members with interesting material, that’s enough.
Users don’t care if Lemmy or the Fediverse is more “free” or which technical features are superior to what Reddit offers.
Most users want a place to find content and basically doomscroll. You want users that will submit new content, not just lurkers. So in order to attract people here, the best way to do so is to submit new content.
I would focus on getting top posters from Reddit to move over or at least cross post.
Doing that requires them seeing someone else getting attention that they are not. Anyway you slice it, the answer is more posts being made here.
Users that don’t care about freedom will never care about Lemmy. It’s the only plus it has. It’s why it exists.
Please, help us to better understand how we can effectively funnel reddit users into Lemmy across all demographics,
Who is “us”, who is “we”?
And who the fuck thinks anyone should be funnelling (no less) the toxic cesspit that is reddit over here?
This post sounds like some bullshit written by the marketing department of a clueless corporation trying to find ways to exploit the latest “thing”.
Please get some redditors here, the narwhal isn’t bacon enough
Well, it isn’t midnight yet so no baconnings will be happening yet.
I am a recovering corporate layoff. Part of my recovery process is to mock the corporate world by imitating their language…
Flawed premise.
Lemmy is not reddit nor should it aspire to be.
We don’t want to attract reddit users, we simply want vibrant communities.
This type of attitude results in turds that won’t flush like lemmit.online et al - a blight upon our fertile landscape.
Wow, do so many people believe Lemmy user are that much different than Reddit user? I mean I can totally forego all the bots, incels and astroturfing, but I do believe they migrate automatically once a platform got big enough. I don’t think there’s any way to stop that unless you want to keep Lemmy small forever.
Lemmy needs to grow because Reddit needs to go. Reddit has become too powerful for a greedy company like that.
You’ve missed my point.
I’m simply saying that migrating reddit users en-masse is the wrong objective. Just make lemmy awesome and allow users to come organically.
I couldn’t care less what happens to reddit. Let them hang around and soak up all the idiots.
I’d like to echo this point. As soon as you set your objective to pull in Reddit users, you’ve set yourself up as the “Reddit alternative”, you’ll be chasing Reddit features and attempting to please the Reddit users. To succeed at this game is to essentially end up creating Reddit, but never surpassing.
In my opinion, Lemmy needs to have a clear mindset on what Lemmy is and what it isn’t, then stick to that.
It would be a real luxury to have that clear mindset, but I don’t think that’s possible.
Lemmy is something like a teenager. It needs time for its own identity and culture to coalesce. For now I think the best we can do is to avoid the notion that we’re alt-reddit.
Lemmy is already awesome. Case closed.
I would be very interested to see the percentage of lemmy users that were reddit users right up until the point they switched primary platforms. I have to imagine that number is near 99%.
Wow, do so many people believe Lemmy user are that much different than Reddit user?
Some are, but some are even worse than reddit, for example the cursed reddit custom of profile downvote… actually never happened to me on reddit but here it’s constant.
Reddit made it so you can’t downvote from a profile page, it simply wouldn’t count. You had to open every comment individually and vote on them. Sorry that it is happening to you. Maybe make a new account, karma isn’t that important, yet we all feel more welcome if there’s positive votes.
Nah i don’t give a shit about karma i’m just genuinly depressed people are this angry and petty. But then again it’s not really surprising since it’s mostly coming from the US bootlickers.
It also skews the point of downvotes even as disagree button.
Reddit made it so you can’t downvote from a profile page, it simply wouldn’t count.
I didn’t know that lol, support my theory of some places (.world for example) being really worse than reddit.
I see some people here saying they don’t want Lemmy to grow. They’re right as far as growth for the sake of growth. That said, there’s value in a bigger user base because it allows for niche communities that otherwise wouldn’t have enough activity to be worthwhile.
So in that spirit, I think actively posting and commenting about the subjects you’re interested in is the best way to help develop active communities. If in conversation IRL we find ourselves saying, “I heard about X on lemmy” or “This tutorial on lemmy helped me figure out an issue with Y” then that’s the best advertisement for new users.
Likewise I think reddit posts are favored when people do web searches because it’s humans having a real discussion, not seo trying to sell something. As there’s more content on lemmy I’d hope web searches will start bringing people here. (And as platforms like reddit make their product worse to make more profit fewer people will go there)
Yup. I don’t post on reddit anymore but lemmy is still relatively empty so I still search for stuff on reddit.
In general, as somebody who migrated from Reddit in June, I’d say that the best of us are already here. I’ve only run into a handful of shitty trolls here these past 4 months. The smaller userbase also results in fewer posts and comments, so I spend less time scrolling through endless content. Both of these aspects have led to me feeling significantly happier and present. You’re right about niche communities being too small here, but I would rather have it this way than deal with proudly ignorant, stupid, hateful dipshits relishing in being loud assholes in a thread with thousands of users learning to be loud assholes like them.
In my opinion, if people want Reddit, they should go to Reddit. The fediverse is the way that it is, and of course I’m open to improvements, but fundamental alterations to the entire identity is not something I would like to see. I’m happy to engage in discourse and disagree productively, which is much more possible here than it ever was on Reddit.
By not allowing bots to crosspost from Reddit. Unique content is thexanswer.
I like that there is one instance dedicated to that. Individuals can subscribe if they like, but overall generally a good idea to avoid in other instances
I got the opposite conclusion from how Facebook managed to take marketshare from MySpace. They allowed bots to take content from the other service and it made it easier to switch
The problem with Lemmy is that the demographic is so skewed. Its mostly hyper-tech nerds mixed with political activists. I like tech and politics but its a bit of a toxic brew and I haven’t found myself having that much fun over here. On reddit, there’s comedy and people not being angry because someone isn’t using linux. Lemmy often feels like a glorified arstechnica link aggregator. Its just kind of a sad place compared to reddit. The other day u/shittymorph made some posts that made me laugh super hard. I haven’t laughed at anything over here, because well most of you aren’t funny, haha me neither so don’t feel attacked. But lemmy not attracting comedians, and having the top post in here be “Dont” really makes it seem like the people here prefer being sad and lonely. sorry its not a direct reply to your query, as some actionable advise your seeking, just me attempting to articulate what i enjoy about reddit that I feel like i don’t see here yet. I don’t how to get someone like shittymorph over here. I don’t know if there’s anything that lemmy offers that appeals to a person like that, that’s enough to make them start creating content over here. Maybe we just need people to stand up the sort of communities commedians would be attracted to, even if its a bit out of our wheelhouse, but idk. Authenticity is important and faking it is easily seen through.
I made a political post here a couple of days ago.
RIP in box.
Turns out lemmy users are just as toxic as reddit is.
I’d argue that this is how most communities start out. It’s start by being a niche like Linux users and slowly gains population. Population makes posts more generic to appeal to the new wider audience and then more people migrate.
I’m hypertech nerd that’s a hard social democrat so for me things are good lol.
I think the problem with Lemmy is that people assume Lemmy is reddit instead of one lemmy-instance is reddit.
So people attribute a culture to the whole of Lemmy instead of an instance.
People should focus more on one instance and grow a culture. It will automatically attract more of that type of person.
Just try to interact with people because it is fun or you have something to share that you are passionate about. As my doctor said: “Don’t force that shit.”.
And most important is that people stop talking about content like it is heroin. It is becoming pathetic.
This is it for me. It seems like the whole site is an example of “the left can’t meme” with content populated by activists and sysadmins
Thus even though I also dislike Reddit I haven’t really been coming here either
Looks like you had something interesting to say, but man that lack of paragraphs… I’m not submitting myself to that.
Maybe try posting some funny memes then?
Works for Stamets and Picard.
Just stop going to Reddit and start contributing valuable content on Lemmy. If Lemmy is a good network, people will come here on their own.
Using AI bots to spam outsiders with Lemmy info is very likely to have the opposite effect.
Yea i remember how much i hated reddit as a digg user, every annoying bitch was like “i read this on reddit”. Then diggv4 shit the bed and i migrated for the content. Dont be an annoying cunt it will only drive people away. Edit: found the reddit user
Please don’t actually
This was my thought too. Organic growth is better. I like the vibe on Lemmy far more than Reddit which has turned into a Instagram clone.
Exactly right.
Post more from humans, no ai content
As an AI language model, I concur with this assessment.
As an agreement bot, I agree with this message.
I don’t really understand why you would want to. In order for the fediverse to be strong it has to grow organically and scale up, not face an eternal september of clueless people who aren’t particularly interested in it.
The corporate/political shills, scammers, sealions and such are attracted to reddit by its size. Not having all that crap here is a good thing. Let’s enjoy it while it lasts.
I’d rather be in a small community of interesting people who like to talk, contribute and honestly and politely debate ideas.
Rather than a huge community of zombies repeating one another or joining in mob mentalities.
@ininewcrow me too. I also like that we can still recognise some of the people here, even from different instances!
Yeah it is definitely much better, you can almost taste the freedom. The quality of discourse is much more relaxed and just overall better.
The reddit posts I saw made it seem WAY more complicated then it was.
It made it seem I was going to have to make dozens of different users. That it was going to be an issue posting to different instances. That I was going to need several programs to talk to eachother…
Mean while. I signed up. Sync told me. ‘hey! You just got lemmy - I already work for that!’ and here I am. Sometime I forget this isn’t reddit.
Seriously. Whatever flyers you want to spread for reddit needs to show how EASY it is to come here.
Speaking of that. Do we lemmings have a dedicated post we can share to redditor who are ready to switch?
"Join Lemmy now!
Lemmy is like reddit but better:
- easier to use
- no ads
- more fun
click here to join https://Lemmy.World/Login "
For starters, the signup shouldn’t happen on one central server
Would you be willing to create such a post/Share link?
Hey, let’s not!
Cross post from Lemmy to Reddit. But we must raise the question if we really want that. Reddit became toxic over the past few years, and I think people on Lemmy right night are in general different. Do we want to turn Lemmy into Reddit?
Instead of crossposting everything, maybe just do it for specific topics.
Large subreddits are (and have often been) toxic. Niche interest ones are mostly fine
I don’t think we do no. Reddit (users) has long been known for its “know-it-all” elitist attitude. I dunno if that is a natural consequence of the voting system but we shouldn’t try to replicate it.
Meanwhile, my experience on Lemmy has been a whole lot of “you don’t like Stalin because you haven’t read enough Chomsky.”
It’s actually worse than reddit in many ways.
You’re on an instance that uses very few blocked instances. Perhaps you should sign up on an instance that blocks tankies instead? Remember that the instances that your instance is federated with also determines your feed since their votes are counted as well.
