What the lemmy libs really don’t get is that even if not every protestor is Mossad, the protests are caused by illegal sanctions of the country with the express purpose of starving people to the point of desperation so that western countries and their puppet Shah can resume resource extraction and using Iran as a geopolitical pawn. They do not care about anything else, everything else westerners are bringing up are not relevant to what is going on - gay people, women’s rights, workers rights, kurdish nationalism, baloch nationalism, MeK or any other thing besides destroying the industrial capacity of the world and enforcing periphery politics on the Iranian people. No one with understanding of Iran wants another power vacuum where material conditions will definitely get worse for everyone.
Yup. And who knows what is actually going on.
The West has been obsessed with toppling the Iranian government since 1979. All their claims about concern for human rights are exposed as lies by their support for the genocide and ethnic cleansing in Palestine. It is hegemony and they can’t accept a government that is not subservient to their ambitions in the region.
By publicly backing the protesters the us put a target on them. They are pawns to sacrifice to get more endless war.
And a regime that gives gay people the death sentence and murders protestors ist any better? Iran needs a government that doesn’t suck up to the US but also treats it’s citizens well. It isn’t black and white where you either defend the current regime or support a US controlled one. You can have neither.
Because US/Western regime changes always, always result in society in that country progressing, right? Never gets worse for anyone especially not minority groups, that would be un-American.
I don’t see where they ever said they supported a US intervention. Please show it.
Iran needs a government that doesn’t suck up to the US but also treats it’s citizens well.
Indeed, and that’s not something you can force upon them from the outaide. At some point a country’s people are (at least to a degree) responsible for how their coubtry is ran and by whom.
Outside onfluence almost never works and always exploits the country in some way.
The US treats it’s citizens like shit. Why doesn’t the US have a government that treats it’s citizens well?
Because the US is an oligarchy, otherwise known as a bourgeois democracy.
Israel/US would just like to destroy Iran rather than improve it. It’s not a recipe for accepting input from them.
ever heard of saudi arabia?
they too give gay people the death sentence and murder protestor and they’re allies of the united state.
Why is Saudi Arabia a standard to you?
it proves that you only give af when this double standard is applied to our political enemies, but don’t care when it’s an ally.
It proves you don’t give a shit about queer people and think it’s okay for Iran to kill queer people just because Saudi Arabia does it. Both countries governments suck.
And when did I ever say I support the US or Israel even though I don’t?
i’m a queer that cares about queer people everywhere.
if you truly dont support the US, then you need to stop spreading support for an attack on iran. it’s easy to see that you did so unwittingly, but that is the impact is the same intentional or not and pink washing is a favorite tool that the US & isreal uses to manufacture support for regime change.
Also I never wrote that I support a US attack on Iran. Please quote me where I supposedly said that.
I support the protests in Iran, not a US intervention in Iran. I support regime change in Iran since an Islamic theocracy will always victimize queer people, but without US intervention.
How about you stop jumping to conclusions?
Who said I support the US? Also whataboutism doesn’t excuse killing queer people, regardless if it is Saudi Arabia or Iran.
“whataboutism” is bad faith argument to quiet dissention; try to be a better person
You are the one whatabouting originally!
Their point is that the US doesn’t care about that
The West is executing thousdsnds of little children by sniping them in the head. If you want to actually seriously do the moral comparison then yes Iran is better.
Why is killing civilians even a standard?
Because Westerners like yourself excuse it when the West does it
Why do you think that is a standard Iran should abide by? “But x is doing worse” is not an excuse for crimes against civilians.
Why are people pretending like rioting terrorists with shotguns and AK’s are now innocent civilians? The videos we’ve seen of large marches show the Iranian government was pretty lenient until the Israeli backed rioters started setting buildings and people on fire and shooting at the police.
How do you know the people with guns aren’t plain clothes cops trying to escalate violence and delegitimize protestors like they do in Western countries?
Because Iran knows they will be demonized for any violence so the likelihood that they are Mossad agents shooting at both cops and protesters to escalate the violence on both sides is infinitely higher.
What if both possibilities were accurate and there were some Mossad agents among the mix because geopolitics and cops were in the mix to delegitimize protestors?
Crisis actors, you mean?
You can have neither.
Not through the current Mossad sponsored protests.
And a regime that gives gay people the death sentence and murders protestors ist any better?
Better have the Mossad and its agents destroy the country and make it worse for everyone, not just homosexuals. May you be cursed with one.
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How many fucking countries does the West have to turn into permanent failed states with the excuse of “improving the conditions” before you people stop falling for it? You already destroyed Libya, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia, and plenty more besides, now you need to destroy Iran too?
You are literally saying “who cares about homosexuals” by using Israel as an excuse to support Hamas who throws gays off roofs. Fascist.
Try harder, fed.
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If you want unusual conspiracy crap:
In 2016, the BBC published a report which stated that the administration of United States president Jimmy Carter (1977–1981) had extensive contact with Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini and his entourage in the prelude to the Iranian Revolution of 1979.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Carter's_engagement_with_Ruhollah_Khomeini
Crazy how the only queers liberals won’t throw under the bus are the ones they want to murder from the air
They’ll kill every last queer person in the middle east if that’s what it takes to get them to accept burger democracy.
Banger
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Iran’s government responded sympathetically to the bazaar protests, providing them with police protection.
Sad that they had to shoot them down afterwards. I mean there was nothing they could’ve done.
your heart sure does bleed for these people you want to starve and murder with the goal of enslaving
Who knows what is really happening?
The us is helping foment economic pain, and ptotests, and violence, to give cause for more iran war.
It will not bring regime change here, just brutal repression, and a cause for unending war with iran and the us and israel, and the gimp too, the uk.
Iran’s government responded sympathetically to the bazaar protests, providing them with police protection.
Yeah, doubt
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I simply recognize that the current government is the lesser evil compared to whatever regime the US/Israel want to install.
Don’t you believe in supporting the lesser evil?
shut the fuck up you henry kissenger ass motherfucker
Spare us the crocodile tears
if the west would leave Iran alone they could deal with their other contradictions on their own.
Found Pompeo’s Lemmy account
Inshallah
silence, saltine craKKKer
Good thing Putin didn’t sign a peace agreement with Ukraine. Now with Trump’s planned invasion of Iran, a future US administration will be able to install missiles near the Caspian to threaten Russia, even if NATO fails badly in Ukraine. At the very least the US will control the air space and fly through it, with Iran defeated. Let’s hope that Trump has to pay a price for this course of action.
You mean this for real or forgot /s ?
For real, I think Putin should continue to troll Trump and use maximum pressure on Ukraine.
Amerikkkans crave nuclear war.
