Evilsandwichman [none/use name]

I think if NATO did go to war with Russia, it knows it has a much larger military and supposedly “better” equipment.

I think they’d try to end it really quickly and either totally devestate russia quickly or take out their industry.

Okay wild fantasies aside, back here in the real world, what’s NATO supposed to actually do? If they try to ‘devastate’ Russia, as in attempt to turn it into Gaza, Russia will 100% nuke the offending countries seriously firing this kind of barrage against them. They’ve been reasonable against Ukraine because Ukraine has hardly been a threat (in fact most Russians would probably say too reasonable), but if a threat they’ve credibly been fearing for decades decided to pull out all the stops, so will they; NATO knows this which is why they weren’t officially in the war this whole time; the best time to be involved was literally day 1, the next best time was day 2, and so on and so forth.

The simple fact is when Ukraine falls, the war is over; you want a country that was willing to risk their safety to get involved in a conflict? You have Yemen, they showed what a country willing to get bombed is willing to do; Euro countries don’t want to get bombed; Let me say that again: Euro countries don’t. want. to. get. bombed. All these countries in Europe had their chance to show how far they were willing to oppose Russia, back when Ukraine had a lot more people to throw in the meat grinder; there’s a lot less Ukrainians now who can and will fight, and Euro forces would have to bear the brunt of the fighting, and if they were willing to do this, they would’ve done it far earlier. Europe. Is. Scared. They won’t join this fight.

When Ukraine falls, the war is over.

Go back! 100,000 landmines demand their legs! Go back! Feed the mines! FEED THE MINES!

Dude 1 out of 100 people died of it and you think that’s low?

People who get infected may show zero or little symptoms, reinforcing the belief it’s harmless, while others literally die.

Yup, not taking the vaccine is like playing rock paper scissors for your life; heck, even if you win your opponent might leave you with a parting gift.

including even COVID

Of course you are; in fact I think it’s more especially covid than ‘including even’ covid.

I personally don’t take vaccines for everything (for example I’m not taking meds for the common cold unless my fever spikes) but covid had a bad fatality rate and a lot of people came out of it with permanent ailments; it was especially deadly on the elderly.

I agree you shouldn’t take meds for every little issue, in fact if you can you would preferably regulate your diet to treat constipation and diarrhea, but covid is another matter. The vaccine has empirically reduced mortality rates.

The way the stories are depicted they always dehumanize the invaded populations; after soldiers kill freedom fighters (who are always depicted as the bad guys), they also show civilians who get caught up and then the marine has a little breakdown over it, or has to hide his pain, or even that the civilians may have been trying to protect the fighter because he was family to them, and basically the story is told in a way to make you want to make excuses for the soldier. Meanwhile real soldiers are more like Platner who go back for multiple tours and talk about how they like infantry combat, or the people who brutalize the population at a level just beneath getting them legal consequences.

I would say we need a new red dawn movie from the perspective of the Soviet (DPRK in the modern one) troops to get the message across, something that probably rips off a famous war movie that most have seen, to really hammer home how ridiculous modern war movies are but truthfully? I do genuinely think too many people are far too obtuse to understand; also every now and then a lib cracks and admits he believe our troops are good people while Russian troops are bad people.

Perhaps what we also really need are movies from the perspective of the freedom fighters, but forget depicting them in a sympathetic light; depict them like Rambo, kicking butt and taking dogtags/names, and the troops in a similar depiction as the Persians in 300.

This except I had people’s phone numbers so I thought I was safe.

Would the UN like to get involved at all? Anything? Any chance of it not being entirely useless?

Europeans freezing to death over the winter, self selecting out of the gene pool: yeah you go Ukraine! You teach those RuZZians!

I looked them up…I’ve no idea who these people are (I don’t know people in politics or major corporation leaders, etc so I don’t really know why I bothered looking in the first place )

But capitalism has a copyright on innovations!

but it’s a valid analogy

Almost; the added context that unfortunately breaks it is that this would have to be on the eve of a war with a comparative superpower that is leagues superior to America and having to hope that you aren’t arming subversive forces who’ll turn on you in this one sided war; then there’s also that this superpower would have crafted a rival political group that both it and the superpower accept as the legitimate government (so like if Democrats said the election was rigged and they were the real winners, and the superpower treated it as fact). Trump isn’t stupid enough to do that; basically no one is; for example this national police force would also need to number high enough to be of any value in war, and this many people easily allows for subversive forces.

Heck, in the real world you have leftist youtubers infiltrating these groups all the time.

The idea is too crazy for the analogy to be valid; you’d have to dumb everything way too down for it to work.

Edit: actually for that matter, there’s no one in America that seriously wants to actually militarily overthrow Trump, which is the ludicrous claims about Maduro.

Libs would first have to understand that ‘dictator’ is a nonsense term and that they’re being lied to about Maduro, but any visit to reddit indicates it’ll never happen (and I don’t recommend visiting reddit; it hurts my brain reading the nonsense they spout over there, let alone the unabashed racism)

But I thought Maduro was a dictator; wouldn’t giving his people guns and training them to use it mean he’s creating a militia hostile to him in his own country?

If only there was a lib who could finagle an explanation for me for why this still tracks.

Guessing they couldn’t think of a way of finagling Russian in there too

I remember having an argument about the little mermaid movie years ago; the guy was complaining that a black lady was cast and I had to ask: “what do you care? You’re not gonna watch it”; he looked stunned for a second and then said “yeah but still…”, to which I had to reiterate “WHAT DO YOU CARE? YOU’RE NOT GONNA WATCH IT!”

Like why are grown men complaining about it at all?! We’re not the target demographic!

The French who colonized Algeria were secular and they committed horrific atrocities against the Algerians (also the other African nations, but as little read as I am about the extent of the atrocities committed against the people of Algeria, I am even less so about their other colonies).

The British were also not motivated by Christianity when they committed atrocities against the people of India.

It’s colonialism that is the source of the violence against dehumanized populations.

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