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      Or just Schumer thinks the issue is the person leading ICE and DHS, not that they have too much impunity.

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    PRIMARY ALL OF THE FUCKING DEMOCRATS!!!

    Unless they are actively opposing this regime, they are complicit. Full stop. Some worse than others, but just replacing Schumer won’t do shit if the rest of the Democrats in Congress are the same milk toast centrist corporate assholes.

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    I just don’t see how anyone can hear this and see them as effective leadership. Minority party or not. Like it makes me, a dedicated left wing person, not want to support democrats because they seem to have lost the plot

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      They haven’t lost the plot, they like the plot. They don’t agree with you, they don’t like you, they don’t want to help you.

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      Completely agree. There are no US politicians who are willing to offer social progress or even support middle-class workers. If you’re not a campaign donor, you can’t get shit in this country.

      Not that it matters who votes for who. After the 2024 election, it’s obvious the winner isn’t decided by votes anyway.

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    Chuck Schumer literally governs based off an imaginary republican family he made up in his head who he runs all of his policy decisions by before voting. He has talked about this openly and repeatedly, for years. He calls them the “Baileys” and they voted for Trump.

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      Good idea. Should we vote for another Dem who will do the same shit? Or for a hard R who will do even worse?

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        You apparently don’t understand what it means to primary a candidate (from the left, in this case). I’ll explain it for you. The way to get more progressive people in Congress is to primary the existing congresspeople with a more progressive candidate.

        Whoever wins the Dem primary in this district will win in the general. It does no good to wait until the general to just vote against the republican and get Jeffries again. You have to find and support a good progressive candidate who is to the left of Jeffries and beat him in the primary. If that doesn’t happen, no one is going to even bother running against Jeffries because they know they won’t beat him in the primary. People have to support support support an opponent.

        This is how magats took over Congress. They primaried the hell out of the “traditional” repubs, from the right. They won some of those primaries and lost some. Then sometimes they still lost in the general if their candidate was too far to the right for their district. But they didn’t care because they still won in a lot of others. They kept doing this every election, and the more power the right got in Congress, the more trad repubs just dropped out and didn’t even try to win re-election. Once it gets going it snowballs.

        There’s no reason the left can’t do the exact same thing to the Dems as the right did to the repubs. Well, unless it’s already too late now that maga controls the government, that is.

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          We tried that in 2016 when we elected Bernie Sanders as our Dem candidate. The DNC told us to go fuck ourselves and nominated Hillary Clinton anyway. So, no, apparently that won’t work either.

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          There was a big progressive victory in NV for the 2020 elections. The progressive Bernie supporter wing successfully took over the party from the establishment dems.

          So the dems formed another party and stole half a million from the old party’s coffers on the way out, leaving the new progressive leaders with no means to pay any of the debts the dems had run up. They took the donor lists with them and started getting all their big donors to move their donations over to the new party they controlled.

          Which is all to say that even when progressives win the democrats will try to destroy you.

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              Sorry it’s been a while and I was going from memory. It was more an opposing faction that simultaneously resigned than a separate party and I think they may have just told former donors to give directly to individual campaigns rather than the party.

              Either way they’ve wrested control back already. If you would like to read more, here’s a couple articles about it

              https://www.nevadaappeal.com/news/2021/mar/11/other-six-basin-states-know-colorado-river-droppin/ https://www.socialistalternative.org/2023/06/29/pulling-out-the-rug-what-happened-after-dsa-and-bernie-supporters-took-over-the-nevada-democratic-party/

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                Oh that–yeah that was dirty politics! But that’s not what I’m talking about. That was about the internal leadership positions of the state’s Dem party apparatus. What I’m talking about is voters voting in elections that send the winners to elected office as state or federal senators and representatives, governors, mayors, school board members, etc.

                So, like what we saw with Mamdani. He ran for office, meeting the legal requirements to do so. The Dem Party couldn’t stop him from running for Mayor. But they did whatever they could to make him lose the primary election, mainly by spending tons of money campaigning against him and for Cuomo. But Mamdani won it handily anyway. Even then, the Dem party didn’t even try to help him win the General. They couldn’t stop him.

                This could be repeated in other places, other elected offices. Especially the House. And winning seats at the State level is just as important.

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    Schumer and Jefferies need to fuck off, and NY voters need to vote in some replacements.

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    “We’ll figure out the accountability mechanisms at the appropriate time,” Jeffries told reporters.

    Didn’t realize this was an inappropriate time to try to stop them from kidnapping and murdering people.

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      Jeffries has always struck me as someone lukewarm, uncharismatic, and even unintelligent. So many better options for that position, but he was chosen for the obvious virtue signal.

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      “We’ll figure out the accountability mechanisms at the appropriate time,” Jeffries told reporters.

      Counterpoint: no you fucking won’t