there is no current word on their condition as the situation is evolving, but i am expecting both to be dead and hope to be wrong. either way, ICE nazis are committed to upholding fascism at the expense of human lives. we are more unsafe now than we’ve been before in this administration. ICE does not view any of us as exceptions. we will be slaughtered if Der Führer demands it.

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    What I’m hearing lately is that these officers are constantly shooting people because they are afraid. If you’re such a scaredy cat, maybe you should get a desk job or be a Wal Mart greeter.

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      “agents”, not “officers”. Officers have training and qualifications.

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        ICE agents are federal law enforcement officers, working under the DHS.

        Anyone calling ICE agents ‘officers’ is stating fact.

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        Some training sure, but a house painter has more.

        Not to denigrate house painters, but if they really fuck up, a wall looks like shit, and if an officer fucks up, a flashbang gets tossed into a crib in a completely different house than the one they had a warrent for.

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    These gestapo pieces of trash should get the same treatment as the “I WaS OnLY FOlLoWiNg OrDeRs” treatment the Nazis got. Trial and… well… it doesn’t end well for them.

    Exactly as it fucking should end.

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    If a car IS headed towards you (that isn’t even proven yet) shooting it will not stop it from hitting you. The entire premise of the argument they’re trying to make is faulty.

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      If anything, the car accelerated because of the murder. So if he was in any actual danger, his actions would have hurt him more than not shooting.

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    Anyone else noticed they’re starting this stuff in the deep blue states with tight gun regulations and assault weapon bans?

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      They are attempting to punish states that don’t support him. Gun ownership isn’t going to stop them. MN is pretty middle of the pack for ownership, at ~43% of households.

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    There’s no such thing as a “defensive shot” at a moving vehicle. Your bullet isn’t going to stop a car. All it does is to change a guided vehicle into an unguided vehicle.

    That’s why US law enforcement agencies have policies that one should only shoot at someone in a moving vehicle if they would be an imminent danger to others if allowed to flee.

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    Imagine how many people they point their guns at every day. After the most recent shooting, it is probably triggering the flight response to everyone they point at so much more then it already was.

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    I’m pretty sure they’re about to start killing whoever they don’t like. I’m sure palantir has a list ready to go

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      I feel like they inherently lose any legitimacy when using emotive language like “vicious” in official statements from a public body

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        Yup, it’s an immediate red flag that you’re dealing with propaganda rather than actual reporting. So gross to see official US government statements being written like a 4chan post. So it goes with fascists.

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        They lost legitimacy about 12 months ago when the CROTUS (child rapist of the united states) installed loyalists despite their lack of experience or truthfulness.

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        The base isn’t going to rile itsself. Well, I guess they do, but you get where I’m going with this.

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        Doesn’t matter what you do, they’ll claim you were a threat…

        The only exception is carrying a big fuck off rifle yourself, because then you’re actually a threat.

        I’ve never seen a video or heard of an event where American law enforcement murdered a civilian while sympathetic protesters carrying rifles were within line of sight.

        We all know they’re cowards. We’d be stupid not to do the one thing that prevents overreach.

        Bunch of tootsie pops running around talking about an owl infestation, you only get licked a couple times till you get cracked

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        Although the victim was allegedly heard to have said that they were simply “blowing their nose,” the ICE agent on-scene assessed that the domestic terrorist foreign gang member was actually about to weaponize the Kleenex, and shot the evil libtard in the face six times in self-defence.

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      this is contributing to the false narrative that ICE is legitimate. they aren’t. they should have never been established and must be abolished. not only that but their current iteration is acting on illegal orders by a fascist dictator president. even if what they’re saying is true it doesn’t justify their actions because they shouldn’t fucking be there in the first place.

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        It’s an entire agency that is 90% staffed with tactical units enforcing MISDEMEANOR civil infractions that the supreme court gave unlimited authority because their scope of work was narrow to the limit where normal people shouldn’t ever encounter them.

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        they should have never been established and must be abolished.

        It’s wild how many people legitimately don’t know it didn’t exist 25 years ago…

        Like, obviously we don’t need it, it’s practically brand new for a federal agency. The only reason it’s as big as it is, is we e been rotating between neoliberals and republicans for 30 years, while both groups moved right.

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      “fearing for his life”, unfortunately they’re all about to understand what that really means if things get more out of hand across the country

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      Its not a lie, there’s a formal point system to determine whether someone is associated with Tren de Aragua. 8 points means they’re definitely a part of the gang.

      It’s 3 points for being in the US without documentation, 6 points for associating with any known members and 2 points for any social media posts containing “associated references”.

      Practically every Venezuelan is part of the gang according to the DoJ. So it’s not a lie, just guilt by association.

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      could be true, could be false. ICE has lost all credibility and blatantly makes shit up. Is this a time when they are being honest or is this more made up shit? who knows, but probably more bullshit