Ok, so Poland seems to recognize it and is not in the “core”…
Turkey seems to recognize it and is not in the “core” …
Taiwan seems to recognize it and is not in the “core” …
Ukraine seems to recognize it and is not in the “core” … Ukraine actually said that after they did China threatened to limit trade and block scheduled delivery of 500,000 covid vaccine doses.
Czech Republic seems to recognize it and is not in the “core” …
Actually looking at the countries supporting and not supporting it looks like divide is more between democracies and dictatorships.
Well his map doesn’t match the map in the article he posted. I can also push bunch of random shit that doesn’t agree with each other and then argue the person ignored “evidence”.
You know damn well he is full of shit. You are criticizing one imperialistic country while defending other even more genocidal ones.
No, the genocidal empire is telling you that the non-genocidal nascent socialist power is actually a genocidal empire so that you sit on your hands due to lacking a real alternative.
Russia, by virtue of being run by nationalists that kicked out the western imperialists plundering their country in the 90s, is strategically aligned with the global south against imperialism. The west winning over Russia means the anti-imperialist countries lose a strong ally. What leftists should want is the CPRF taking power, they are the second most powerful party behind United Russia right now and are gaining in support.
Why do you think post-Warsaw Pact states like Poland, the Czech Republic, and Ukraine fall in line with what the ruling classes of the richest countries want? Could it be that these countries became completely dominated by the Western IMF/NATO protection racket upon seceding? Could it be that there’s been a concerted effort since the beginning of the Cold War to create a class of liberal and fascist collaborators in these countries with the explicit purpose of defeating communism? Should it be surprising that they’re anticommunist as a result?
Taiwan is probably the most obvious one to choose if I wanted an example of a country (allegedly) with a vested interest in making up human rights violations against China.
And how can you call the side with the US in it democratic?
Ok, the goalposts turned and left us here. What do you want me to say? Looks like Poland, Taiwan, Czechia, Turkey, and Ukraine don’t like China, a phenomenon that I can’t offer an explanation for without being accused of moving the goalposts further.
If there’s something substantial to what you’re saying (hell you never even made a claim, the original comment in this chain wasn’t even specific about what he believed was or wasn’t true about Uyghurs) it’s on you to bring evidence to the table.
Oh, so because they raise awareness of a genocide happening, it means they don’t like them? It originally started that only a small percentage backs it up. Turns out that percentage is much much bigger.
You haven’t actually substantiated the claim that there’s “a genocide happening.” All you’ve done is show that a handful of countries that are aligned with the West wanted to start a debate about China’s human rights violations.
Oh so when a country with one of the biggest Nazi concentrations claims another is run by Nazis then proceeds to invade it country and tries to exterminate its population that’s ok in your mind?
That’s very ahem “non Nazi” way of looking at things.
Looks like you aren’t really supporting communism you are just supporting terrorizing people with tanks. The word “tankie” couldn’t be any truer.
This is ridiculous, lmao. It was the neo-Nazi Banderite regime in Kiev that was ethnically cleansing Russians, murdering 13,000 civilians over the course of a decade of shelling. Russia went in to support Donetsk and Luhansk at their request. Russia isn’t exterminating anyone.
You have a serious problem with believing seemingly every lie the west tells about its adversaries.
You’re saying that Russia and China is anti-imperialistic? One actively is trying to exterminated a country and another is preparing to do the same likely in 2027.
You’re saying that Russia and China is anti-imperialistic?
Yes: China by virtue of being socialist and Russia by present circumstances. Previously:
Russia is an interesting case: it has already liberated itself from the post-Soviet “shock therapy” neocolonizers. This occurred during Putin’s administration, which is why he is especially hated by the US.
But Russia isn’t trying to “liberate” Ukraine, at least not all of Ukraine. It’s trying to resolve the genocidal attacks on the people of the Donbas, and it’s trying to resolve the imperialist military expansion at its border.
One actively is trying to exterminated a country
Despite the last three years of propaganda to the contrary, Russia is not trying to exterminate Ukraine[1][2].
another is preparing to do the same likely in 2027.
First of all, if you ask most countries, including the ROC, the PRC, and the USA, Taiwan is still a part of China. This is considered an internal matter by both, and is a consequence of China’s civil war being interrupted at the cusp of its conclusion, when the remnants of the fascist KMT had retreated to the Formosa/Taiwan.
Second of all, China doesn’t want to attack Taiwan if it can at all avoid it. Otherwise it would have done it already. China has the patience to wait out a long, slow process of integration. It has nothing to gain by attacking those who it considers its own people. Until recently, the US had been hoping to goad China into an attack, in order to destabilize China. But I think the US now realizes that it doesn’t have the capability to succeed.
Russia and China are both anti-imperialist countries. Russia is run by nationalists that kicked out the western imperialists that were plundering their country in the 90s, and are thus anti-imperialist strategically. China is a socialist country, and has no financial oligarchy. Because of this, it has been the most important player in undermining imperialism globally, and providing an alternative to bypass unequal exchange.
It isn’t the US or EU that countries in the global south go towards in breaking free of the cycle of underdevelopment, it’s Russia and China. Russia isn’t exterminating anyone, and China isn’t preparing to do that either. You have a very chauvanistic view of the enemies of the west, as though you can’t accept that their villians aren’t as evil as them.
Those countries are in the core or the semi-periphery, depending on who you ask. They’re in the liminal space between the core and the periphery. They have “favored vassal” status, and won’t bite the hand that feeds them.
Says everyone but the imperial core, which represents ~12% of the world:
The media that have lied about Palestine are the very same media who lied about Xinjiang.
📺 You’re Not immune To propaganda
aka places aliens are allowed to attack in Hollywood films
Ok, so Poland seems to recognize it and is not in the “core”…
Turkey seems to recognize it and is not in the “core” …
Taiwan seems to recognize it and is not in the “core” …
Ukraine seems to recognize it and is not in the “core” … Ukraine actually said that after they did China threatened to limit trade and block scheduled delivery of 500,000 covid vaccine doses.
Czech Republic seems to recognize it and is not in the “core” …
Actually looking at the countries supporting and not supporting it looks like divide is more between democracies and dictatorships.
Czech Republic and Poland is on the map. Also if you’re gonna be talking about what is and isn’t “in the core” you gotta actually read the literature
I used links provided.
Poland is literally on that map you illiterate fucking chud
Well his map doesn’t match the map in the article he posted. I can also push bunch of random shit that doesn’t agree with each other and then argue the person ignored “evidence”.
You know damn well he is full of shit. You are criticizing one imperialistic country while defending other even more genocidal ones.
No, the genocidal empire is telling you that the non-genocidal nascent socialist power is actually a genocidal empire so that you sit on your hands due to lacking a real alternative.
Every country on earth is a dictatorship: either a dictatorship of the rich or a dictatorship of the proletariat
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I dunno, I don’t live in Russia, why should I align with them?
Russia, by virtue of being run by nationalists that kicked out the western imperialists plundering their country in the 90s, is strategically aligned with the global south against imperialism. The west winning over Russia means the anti-imperialist countries lose a strong ally. What leftists should want is the CPRF taking power, they are the second most powerful party behind United Russia right now and are gaining in support.
Why do you think post-Warsaw Pact states like Poland, the Czech Republic, and Ukraine fall in line with what the ruling classes of the richest countries want? Could it be that these countries became completely dominated by the Western IMF/NATO protection racket upon seceding? Could it be that there’s been a concerted effort since the beginning of the Cold War to create a class of liberal and fascist collaborators in these countries with the explicit purpose of defeating communism? Should it be surprising that they’re anticommunist as a result?
Taiwan is probably the most obvious one to choose if I wanted an example of a country (allegedly) with a vested interest in making up human rights violations against China.
And how can you call the side with the US in it democratic?
Why are you changing goal posts? Looks like it is more countries than “the core”.
Ukraine also showed how China pressured everyone to not vote yes.
Ok, the goalposts turned and left us here. What do you want me to say? Looks like Poland, Taiwan, Czechia, Turkey, and Ukraine don’t like China, a phenomenon that I can’t offer an explanation for without being accused of moving the goalposts further.
If there’s something substantial to what you’re saying (hell you never even made a claim, the original comment in this chain wasn’t even specific about what he believed was or wasn’t true about Uyghurs) it’s on you to bring evidence to the table.
Oh, so because they raise awareness of a genocide happening, it means they don’t like them? It originally started that only a small percentage backs it up. Turns out that percentage is much much bigger.
Imperialist states don’t give a rat’s ass about Uyghurs any more than they do about Palestinians.
They’re not “raising awareness.” They’re pumping out anti-China propaganda, because China is now their greatest enemy. The cold war never ended.
You haven’t actually substantiated the claim that there’s “a genocide happening.” All you’ve done is show that a handful of countries that are aligned with the West wanted to start a debate about China’s human rights violations.
Ukraine has a government run by Nazis allowing pogroms of ethnic minorities in its borders they are not a reliable source.
Oh so when a country with one of the biggest Nazi concentrations claims another is run by Nazis then proceeds to invade it country and tries to exterminate its population that’s ok in your mind?
That’s very ahem “non Nazi” way of looking at things.
Looks like you aren’t really supporting communism you are just supporting terrorizing people with tanks. The word “tankie” couldn’t be any truer.
what
This is ridiculous, lmao. It was the neo-Nazi Banderite regime in Kiev that was ethnically cleansing Russians, murdering 13,000 civilians over the course of a decade of shelling. Russia went in to support Donetsk and Luhansk at their request. Russia isn’t exterminating anyone.
You have a serious problem with believing seemingly every lie the west tells about its adversaries.
Correct, the dividing line is between Democracy and Autocracy,
between the Garden and the Jungle,
between the imperialists and the anti-imperialists.
You’re saying that Russia and China is anti-imperialistic? One actively is trying to exterminated a country and another is preparing to do the same likely in 2027.
Yes: China by virtue of being socialist and Russia by present circumstances. Previously:
Despite the last three years of propaganda to the contrary, Russia is not trying to exterminate Ukraine[1][2].
First of all, if you ask most countries, including the ROC, the PRC, and the USA, Taiwan is still a part of China. This is considered an internal matter by both, and is a consequence of China’s civil war being interrupted at the cusp of its conclusion, when the remnants of the fascist KMT had retreated to the Formosa/Taiwan.
Second of all, China doesn’t want to attack Taiwan if it can at all avoid it. Otherwise it would have done it already. China has the patience to wait out a long, slow process of integration. It has nothing to gain by attacking those who it considers its own people. Until recently, the US had been hoping to goad China into an attack, in order to destabilize China. But I think the US now realizes that it doesn’t have the capability to succeed.
Lol
Russia and China are both anti-imperialist countries. Russia is run by nationalists that kicked out the western imperialists that were plundering their country in the 90s, and are thus anti-imperialist strategically. China is a socialist country, and has no financial oligarchy. Because of this, it has been the most important player in undermining imperialism globally, and providing an alternative to bypass unequal exchange.
It isn’t the US or EU that countries in the global south go towards in breaking free of the cycle of underdevelopment, it’s Russia and China. Russia isn’t exterminating anyone, and China isn’t preparing to do that either. You have a very chauvanistic view of the enemies of the west, as though you can’t accept that their villians aren’t as evil as them.
Those countries are in the core or the semi-periphery, depending on who you ask. They’re in the liminal space between the core and the periphery. They have “favored vassal” status, and won’t bite the hand that feeds them.
Turkes does not recognize it afaik