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bubblybubbles@lemmy.ml to Memes@lemmy.ml · 1 day ago

Average convo with liberals when Ukraine comes up

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Average convo with liberals when Ukraine comes up

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bubblybubbles@lemmy.ml to Memes@lemmy.ml · 1 day ago
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    As you can see from the comments, libs are way more delusional than in your meme, they aren’t even admitting the three first lines.

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      it’s heart warming to see that the reality to this narrative still has defenders and it makes me wonder what people will believe when reality wins out.

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        Ukraine is supported by the western empire for the same reason Israel is, it’s a glorified US millitary base in the region surrounded by geopolitical adversaries. Russia will not stop their advance while they are clearly winning, and the Donetsk and Luhansk People’s Republics already voted to join the Russian Federation. The idea that there will be guerilla resistance is just unfounded, Kiev has been at war with the Donbass region for a decade.

        Europe is increasingly being demoted from imperialist vassals of the US Empire to periphery countries. Europe has very little hard power compared to the major players in the world stage and is utterly dependent on the US Empire’s hard power. The soft power Europe has is slipping as well. No amount of your homophobic pejoratives will change the fact that Europe doesn’t bring much to the table despite being the loudest ones there, and that’s why they are in fewer and fewer international talks where major powers are involved.

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            The people of Donetsk and Luhansk, who voted to join the Russian Federation, seem to be happy with the way the war is going. Kiev was ethnically cleansing them since 2014, after all, so that checks out. As for Ukraine being a glorified millitary outpost, again, it’s similar to Israel. Ukraine gets arms from NATO, is cozy with NATO, and is in general a highly millitarized country. Poland is also governed by the far-right, this isn’t the grand own you think it is. Europe since the end of World War II has been subservient to the US Empire, that isn’t new. What’s new is Europe’s demotion from vassal to periphery, which is an ongoing process accelerated in recent years.

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                Here are some compiled by @[email protected]

                • https://www.sott.net/article/467441-Burned-alive-How-the-2014-Odessa-massacre-became-a-turning-point-for-Ukraine

                • https://21stcenturywire.com/2014/11/17/natos-nazis-ethnic-cleansing-their-opposition-in-east-ukraine/

                • https://sarahwestall.com/yes-its-true-evidence-of-genocide-crimes-against-humanity-towards-russians-in-ukraine/

                • https://commondreamsnews.com/the-donbass-russians-subject-to-unparalleled-ethnic-cleansing/

                • https://csegr.ru/discrimination-against-russians-in-ukraine-eng/

                • https://www.voltairenet.org/article184430.html

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                    Are you denying the evidence of ethnic cleansing, or are you supporting the ethnic cleansing because ethnic Russians are victims? I’m anti-zionist and anti-Banderite.

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